My understanding is that the block size has been increased from 1MB to 4MB to accommodate the additional storage.  Is this correct?  The Ordinals and Runes are stored on-chain.  As far as I know this was not a part of the original code.  It was added.

It's just using the loophole that the Core team put in to give the Lightning Network a leg up.  I wish people had the same energy for Ordinals that they have for Lightning, both are equally dumb.



No justification is ever needed to anyone for using the blockchain.



I think they do serve a good purpose.  They show the developer bias and that Bitcoin is being run by a team of people who want to control what you use it for, while expecting other developers not to use the same tools to build that they do.  This hypocrisy has gone to extreme levels.  I see devs on social media bashing people for shilling shitcoins and then in their next post they're shilling liquid tokens or some other nonsense.

Correct, but you could always embed arbitrary data.  It's just easier now with tapscript.  


What's the loophole for the lightning network?  And how come it's equally dumb?  It allows a few people transact small amounts instantly and with near zero cost.  What's the problem?


How can the Bitcoin Core team control how I use it for?


Just because there are more transactions, it doesn't make it less efficient.  It's just more expensive currently, because other people are willing to pay more than you do. 

The issue with Lightning is that merchant transactions require a 3rd party liquidity provider.  In addition every transaction adds financially motivated middle men.  Bitcoin is supposed to be P2P in order to prevent financial institutions from taking control of the network.

And I never said it's ideal.  I just said that it helps some people.  What's your or the other user's problem if they are satisfied by that?

Lightning network is peer-to-peer, not as in Bitcoin, but still.  Third party liquidity providers do not gain custody of the peers' cash, so it meets my conditions to be called p2p.  It is just less permissionless, the less the number of your channels. 

Liquidity providers can track every transaction (privacy), They can shut down the channel (permission) and they charge a fee for their services (bank).

The point of Bitcoin is to be p2p to avoid all of these issues and provide a trustless transaction. Unfortunately lightning is not peer-to-peer and does not make Bitcoin a better electronic cash system unless you think cheaper means better.

But back to the topic.  How do you feel about Runes and Ordinals?  Are they making Bitcoin a better peer-to-peer electronic cash system?

all crypto is PERMISSIONED
they all require a signature from someone..

you are confused between self custody(your own permission(you sign tx) is needed if someone else wants to be paid(they cant take money from you))
vs cusodians where you need a middle mans permission to make payments on your behalf of balance they hold they suggest was yours

only the CSW scammer wants bitcoin to be permissionless so that he can take the satoshi stash without needing a signature

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as for the core group. they have other games at play

the foolishness of dev politics buzzword misinformation.. is that they want to pretend we are no longer owners of our own value, that funds dont need out permission, but that value belongs to the bitcoin brand, and we are just signing witness statements of observing funds moving..(much like trustee's dont own the value in a trust but are signed witnesses of following the trusts rules)

those dev politicians (core government) want to try to change how we treat bitcoin via their word play. pretending we are no longer authorised to own our assets, but just witnesses(trustees) of the bitcoin brands trustfund (contracted rules, they can change, without notice/requirement of peoples mass consent), suggestion of who gets to witness(sign witness scripts) of funds and benefit from being holders/trustees/beneficiaries(not owners)

it has NOT
it has no always been possible to add 4mb of junk data.. to the end of the tx..

the exploit that allows junk metadata appended to the end of a transactions (after signatures) only occurred after a 2017 exploit was added, where data using a certain new range of opcodes were added and activated after july 2017, which allowed upto 4mb of junk

the opcodes that allowed all this junk did no exist in 2009

even in 2009-2017 you could not even add 1mb of junk to a tx
bitcoin had hardened rules pre august 2017

I'm saying it was always possible to embed arbitrary data.  "Ordinals" are a very specific method of embedding arbitrary data, so it would not be correct to say that ordinals were always possible.  But without the code ordinals are exploiting, it's still possible to hog a load of space in blocks by embedding images and other trash.  And it's still possible for people to claim silly images are an asset class in an attempt to get others to spam a blockchain that doesn't support the very specific methods ordinals utilise.  That's what needs fixing.  People need to know that silly images are not assets.  They are snake oil and trash.