Petter Todd gave a 50% chance Samurai Wallet was run by feds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPNFdhZUGmk

I guess the chance is now 100%

RIP indeed, I hope the tech continues being used via open source anon development though

So my question is, since the feds control the website, is there a way to control the software that has already been downloaded to users' computers? I guess not.

So, I reckon that the whirlpool servers will go down. I also believe that there will be no more support for the products (samourai & sentinel).

Is there anything else I am missing?


Ouch! That would hurt.

Now that it's been seized by the authorities, I think we can all agree it was never a US honeypot.

The answer to this question depends on the roadmap of Sparrow. Will they write code that decentralizes Whirlpool, or will they completely remove it as an option? We'll see.

No, but users who weren't running their own full node but using Samourai as wallet, will probably have to migrate to another wallet software, because Samourai servers are down.

I'm now getting this message in Sparrow:

Binance pleaded guilty to all of the charges that was filed against them, the same as their former ceo CZ who also pleaded guilty. So i reckon that in their own case they knew they were doing so many things wrong.
Too bad that another privacy solution has been brought down, the U.S. government want to make it very difficult for people to use Bitcoin without exposing data that they can be tracked with. It is sad, but the fight for privacy is looking like a fight that we cannot win.

years ago when I saw that casinos were asking for kyc, when I saw that exchanges were also asking for kyc and started deanonymizing altcoins, when I saw that governments were seizing mixers, then I said it was a matter of a few years to governments target wallets too. I believe that in the future governments will not allow wallets to add or allow people to hold anonymity coins and that people will not kyc wallets and that wallets will operate without a license. This is because the governments' idea is that the same rules and laws that are applied to all financial services in the real world should also be applied to financial services on the internet.

For many governments, they no longer want the internet to be a different world from the real world in which the laws and rules of the real world do not apply in the internet world. we just need to see that governments are regulating social networks. Nowadays, speaking badly about someone on social media is punished as if you had spoken badly about them in the real world. privacy on the internet is ending at the speed of light, whoever wants to survive on the internet will have to accept the rules and laws of governments

Sorry friends and @BlackHatCoiner but I have a question, I see that the US government have brought down a few Bitcoin mixers and some platforms too that support Bitcoins privacy for user but my question is, does it mean that the US government can shot down any sit or platform that they want even if that site or platform is not operated or was  not designed and managed by a US citizen?

Take for example, if Samourai Wallet was being designed by a black man somewhere in Africa and the platform was open to be used by anybody around the world (across other countries), can the government still shot it down?

If they can not, then it can be a means for SamouraiWallet to relocate their company to a country where they can operate freely but should restrict American citizens from using their service.  I don't know if this makes any sense, but it's just my suggestion.

They can shut it down so long as they believe the platform is being used by the criminals they hate the most, such as those North Korean hackers, to "launder" money through it. it doesn't matter where the platform was created from or who created it. They will work so hard to sanction it and then probably seize it.
Centralized platforms where the developers are not even anornymous are so prone to such a thing.

Coinjoins aren't custodial, so there's no funds they can seize. The Feds are only able to access the data of Samourai's users since their wallet was designed to collect xpub addresses and IP addresses by default.

Samourai Wallet had something called Whirlpool with nearly 700 million dollars in it. This is now shut down and under the control of the feds from what I’m reading. This is what I was referencing. Again, I’m not sure how it all works so maybe I’m just misunderstanding your explanation, but there are definitely funds that have been seized or frozen in some fashion so I would assume some part of it is custodial or based on web contracts or something. I give you exhibit A of this below:

Well, it's a fact that this kind of news is never good for the community. And it is regrettable that we are reaching this type of situation that the authorities have been promoting.

But we also have to note that they were the ones who put themselves in the sights of the authorities:


They invited Russians who were being penalized by the authorities because of the war to use their services to evade the sanctions. Without a doubt, it was a matter of time before the authorities caught up.