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    October 12, 2024, 04:27:08 AM
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    Bitcoin (and blockchain generally) will never scale to mainstream transaction loads, as this is a hard architectural limitation (PoW means it is actually intentionally slow and expensive to transact). But nobody cares about that since most people don't actually transact Bitcoin directly, rather they do so through a broker, app, or an L2. But all of these things are based around the idea of Bitcoin being an investment, not a means of everyday transactions.
    Yes, what I meant with "scalability" was including L2s (be it Lightning or sidechains). But including "brokers" would already be sacrificing censorship resistance and thus Bitcoin's biggest USP. So in my opinion the community should focus on making centralized brokers unnecessary in the system. Ideally there should be apps hiding the complexity from the end user.


    L2s are not Bitcoin, and therefore don't have any of the benefits of Bitcoin. Indeed, an L2 simply doubles your risk because you are investing in both the L2 and Bitcoin.

    And the reason users resort to L2s is the same reason they resort to brokers and apps and centralized currencies like ETH: performance and cost. There is an absolute tradeoff between Bitcoin's non-centralized nature and performance (and after 15 years I think it's time to stop saying, "someday they will find a solution").

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    At the same time I agree and disagree about your statement about PoW. In my opinion, it's inexact to say that PoW makes it intentionally slow to transact, instead it slows down the timestamping process of the transactions. The slowness of PoW is instead a result of physical limits associated with the timestamping/validating process due to Internet latency. That's why we need L2s.


    Again, an L2 is not Bitcoin. For me, it's utterly retarded to use an L2 when you can just use a scalable L1. In an L2 scenario, you are depending on two networks instead of one--and you are dependent on the connection between the L1 and the L2, which introduces a third point of system risk, complexity, cost and speed.

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    In theory we could imagine a future where the latency problem is solved and even a big block coin like Solana or Bitcoin SV could be "decentralized" and serve 8 billion people, but then we'd still have an inefficient process.

    Unless they repeal the laws of physics, then no, we cannot.

    And if the given currency is not everything Bitcoin is, i.e. massively decentralized (that there are three companies that have >51% of the Bitcoin hashrate notwithstanding), then what value does it add over a non-blockchain architecture that actually can scale to every transaction on the planet?

    Bitcoin was never meant to scale, period. And guess what: nobody cares. Bitcoin has achieved mainstream status as a meme investment and nobody cares that it will never be used as a transaction mechanism.

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    Why would you price something in Bitcoin? All that would do is trade a measurement everybody knows for one that very few people know.
    I do think that a currency should evolve towards an "unit of account". With prices in Bitcoin, it becomes suddenly more predictable and less risky, even if these prices move over time.


    So you are saying that "someday" in the distant future it will be technically possible for Bitcoin to be used as a measurement mechanism. But that doesn't explain why, at that time in the distant future, people will switch to measuring value in Bitcoin rather than the things they use today like USD and EUR. The metric system became a a perfectly viable system of measurement in 1795, yet here we are 230 years later and it's adoption is still not universal and here in the free society of the USA, where it hasn't been forcibly shoved down the throats of the population under threat of imprisonment, most people here still use the imperial system on a daily basis.

    So yeah, I think I can say with a lot of confidence that Bitcoin will never ever ever be used in a widespread way as a common measurement of value unless western civilization itself collapses (at which point Bitcoin would be toast as well).

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