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If you care about bitcoin...

November 24, 2024, 04:45:37 PM
Last edit: November 24, 2024, 04:57:11 PM by Pinemarten

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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

- Peter Schiff: He makes profits on gold and fears that bitcoin will force him to sell his house and turn his daughters into prostitutes. He slams bitcoin but no other crypto because of his fear of the 'king coin'. Any media that quotes this desperate fool should be slammed hard. Comment on the articles that they are posting fake news by 'the desperate fool'.

- Gary Gensler: to be resolved Jan 20

- Dems and the DoJ: On Monday, July 29, 2024. The US government moved 29,800 of its total hoard of 230,000 coin. The FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) in the market caused the price to crash $3,000. This was two days after the Trump speech in Nashville. The speech and the hype up to it, had the price up to $70,000ish from the Mt Gox and Saxony crashes. I reported this to the FBI as either election fraud or market manipulation. They think I have a tin foil hat.

- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.

There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~

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November 24, 2024, 04:59:59 PM

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Well , truth is even with all this evils as you have said , Bitcoin still stands strong!
I don't think we have anything to fight against, not everyone would like Bitcoin or wish for Bitcoin to become a success.
We just have to let Bitcoin speak for itself, which is actually happening RN .
Bitcoin just hit 97k who expected it so soon?? Imagine what is to come! In the coming years and this favourable administration.

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November 24, 2024, 05:16:41 PM

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That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

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November 24, 2024, 05:24:55 PM

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The best fight we have had so far as bitcoiners is to snub the negative words and thoughts we have had from those who don't visualize Bitcoin as a digital currency the same way we do, to ride on with our accumulation of Bitcoin cause the end will justify the means, as most of us are anticipating to be among the millions of people Bitcoin will make millionaires by 2025

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November 24, 2024, 07:50:45 PM

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Quote from: Pinemarten on November 24, 2024, 05:16:41 PM

That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

You can. Anyone can battle this thing however they want. But if you feel compelled that you gotta speak out against some fool, then follow your gut. We each pick our own way to scrap and just cause Peter Schiff talks trash dont mean Ill give him the time of day.

Bitcoin is fine without any one person. Best way to stand behind it is use it, teach folks about it, give back what you can...

So yeah you wanna call out the BS from Peter Schiff, be my guest. Just dont expect we all join the cause.

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November 24, 2024, 08:00:07 PM

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So what? They have full control over what they do and we just need to do what we are supposed to do because no matter how much we oppose what they do at the end of the day, things like this will not change as there will always be pros and cons to everything that is done.

They reject bitcoin because they have a goal for their own benefit and we cannot intervene in their choice because it is their right.
Our job now is just to do what we should do, regardless of those who speak badly or oppose I personally don't really care about that because when we try to argue there will be no bright spot from that so why do we try to argue because when someone has started to hate something (in this case bitcoin) regardless of the data or facts we provide they will not want to accept it.

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 24, 2024, 08:21:41 PM

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Here is a fine example of fake news:

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-technical-analysis-btcs-short-term-correction-what-the-charts-reveal/

Published on a Sunday, no author byline, no timestamp. Just copy/paste from an AI question: "Please write me an article about the bitcoin price crashing."

All the responses so far, seem like those of gutless cowards in mom's basement. Bitcoin may do well without your help, but grow some balls and at least agree that all the help we can give it will make it prosper faster and stronger. ~~~~

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November 24, 2024, 09:23:28 PM

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Quote from: Pinemarten on November 24, 2024, 08:21:41 PM

grow some balls
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Thats funny coming from someone who was born today (as far as forum accounts go). Cheesy

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Youre a newbie who doesnt know shit about anything. We have veterans here who have been fighting for Bitcoin for over a decade. Where were you?

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 24, 2024, 10:03:01 PM

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Bitcoin is not for everyone and not limited to the saboteurs criticizing the valuabilities of bitcoin.so let them be as Speculations about bitcoin is a free to say.
Perhaps there had been a lot of anti bitcoiners who had in time make a U-turn to embrace bitcoin even after much critics. Indeed Donald Trump of toddy contributing to this great level bitcoin is an obvious example.

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November 24, 2024, 10:03:56 PM

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Bitcoin is definitely true and mature, we will definitely fight for Bitcoin, it is the safest digital currency of the present time. Where we can feel peace by investing and it is possible to gain huge benefits, there is no doubt that others will present it in the same way as we present it.
Because Bitcoin is spread all over the world based on its own merits, those who are very worried about investing in Bitcoin are the bedbugs of this society.
If anyone criticizes it, we will definitely prove to them that Bitcoin is the best investment and is known as the safest and truest asset of this time, because you will be surprised when you look at the growth rate of Bitcoin. Only those who are stupid, they are afraid of taking risks, and only stupid people will say that Bitcoin is bad.

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November 24, 2024, 10:04:28 PM

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Education really is the key. No matter how many so-called experts try to discredit Bitcoin or doubt its future, if youre well-informed, you wont panic. Its nothing new, FUD has been around for years, but look at how far Bitcoin has come despite all that noise. FUD and FOMO are part of the game, and honestly, not everyone will profit from Bitcoin investing. Some will fail so others can succeed, its just how markets work.

As for coins being moved or sold, with todays larger trading volumes, its less likely to cause a massive crash. A small dip isnt a crash, and Bitcoins market behaves differently from traditional stocks. What might seem massive to them is often just a regular fluctuation for Bitcoin.

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 24, 2024, 10:08:36 PM

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Quote from: Pinemarten on November 24, 2024, 05:16:41 PM

That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

Our only enemy here is misinformation. That is what kills bitcoin and what makes other people look the opposite way of bitcoin. That is all that we have to fight. People who are spreading misinformation just so it validates their hatred and skepticism to bitcoin are the ones we should take care of. But people who genuinely just dont want to invest and expressing it on public? Theres nothing we can do about that. We cant force them to do anything.

As per market manipulation, I dont think that was the case back then. Even if it was, I dont really know what would be the consequences for that. There are entities with a lot of bitcoins and unfortunately they hold the power to move the market. Again, nothing we really can do.

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 24, 2024, 10:46:14 PM

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For me one way to keep decentralisation in full positive impact and power. In the crypto space is to clear out FOMO because of it's effects on the network. Most big firms and investors are actually focused solely on profits and what they could benefit from the network and not necessarily being an enthusiast or a core supporter of the network.

Decentralisation has it's undisputed importance and advantages and also, so does it have a couple of disadvantages. Sudden moves like buying or selling huge amounts that big firms usually make are usually accompanied by sudden shift in price too but it's effect is more intense because of the FOMO of retail holders.

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 25, 2024, 02:18:50 AM

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trying to fight media wont change things..

if you think some media gossip can kill bitcoin then you already dont understand bitcoin enough to realise that bitcoin can continue no mater what chatter is said in media

for instance peter Schiff has no sway/power over bitcoin. heck he is a gold lover but doesnt have much say in his own industry. so no point wasting energy on his silly thoughts.

however core devs can change bitcoin, and their thoughts, actions and discussions can change the path of bitcoin
if you want to defend bitcoin you need to review and scrutinise the bitcoin devs

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if you are bullish on an asset and intends projecting it to the people in the society, its best to do it without trying to get another person involved in it in a manner that makes it look like you see the individual as a threat to bitcoin. Gary Gensle, peter Schiff and whichever anti bitcoin personality we have out there are just to be seen as mere noise makers that are not fortunate enough to have invested in bitcoin and because of that wants to see bitcoin crash so as to boost their ego for their lack of believe in bitcoin. trying to go at that on the media to tarnish whatever post or opinion they share will be a waste of energy and instead, it's best to use such energy in projecting bitcoin and continue in investing in bitcoin so after slamming them, it would not be that we ourselves don't even have the slightest quantity of bitcoin we are holding.

bitcoin represents freedom and doesn't need you to go word for word against the anti bitcoinnier. the best way to show that you value bitcoin is to buy, hold and maybe share your investment journey with people which can in the process bring others into the bitcoin ecosystem. if you have done that, let the media gossipers continue in their gossip and watch how bitcoin continue getting bullish and giving them what to talk about.

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Bitcoin is a very valuable digital currency so we must be careful with Bitcoin. Over the course of a few days we have seen the price of Bitcoin rise a lot and it is only a matter of time before the price of Bitcoin touches $100k. There are many investors who have been investing for a long period of time and have held the investment but this time they have made substantial profits. Now, if his company had not cared about Bitcoin, they would not have made such huge profits this time.

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If we are going to be focusing our energy on all negative sentiments that goes on around the world of Bitcoin, fear will get the better of us and then we might lose interest in it and worst case scenario is get depressed about it!!

On the bright side, why don't we talk about the positives about Bitcoin related news to absorb all the negatives, for example incoming POTUS is Pro Bitcoin which is a big plus as we saw that after his win price rallied up over 25k and we are still bullish btw...

Btw people will always criticize a good cause, so let's just put a blind eye on them.

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Re: If you care about bitcoin...

November 25, 2024, 06:53:32 AM

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No one needs to fight for bitcoin because bitcoin can protect itself and has being during that since creation after a lot of critics and run down on bitcoin. To the point that government thought that it is within their power to decide if bitcoin exist or not, but bitcoin proved them wrong and disappointed them.

One thing with media is that they are doing their work to spread whatever information people tell them to do and I will not blame them for that, because it's the same media that is passing bitcoin awareness to people more. Don't care about what people are saying bout bitcoin but care about how much bitcoin you can accumulate.

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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

What "board" are you talking about? Bitcoin isn't a corporation. The FUD and hate around Bitcoin will never stop and we can't stop it by defending Bitcoin on social media. Personally I don't care about the opinions of Buffet, Jamie Dimon, Peter Schiff or any other Bitcoin hater.
Haters gonna hate even when the Bitcoin price hits 100K, 200K or 1 million. The BTC supporters acting like some weird religious cult and defending Bitcoin on social media seems like a desperate move to me(and it looks so cringe as well). Bitcoin is doing just fine and there's no need for us to "defend" it from all evil. Grin

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If you care about Bitcoin, I would say never use centralized exchange anymore.

Why stop to use centralized exchange? because when you send your coins to the exchange, the exchange can access your coins, which is kill the decentralization. When you want to trade your coins for other currency, the transaction happened by off-chain, this mean you didn't contribute to the network.

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