That's a good point.   The rules should be clarified to state a referral code is something you gain benefit from.   Example, if I post a youtube link to start at a certain time (adds a ?t), I don't want to be accused of posting a referral code.

The proper term for an item following a website with "?' is a parameter.  All referral codes are parameters, but all parameters are not referral codes.  Hope this helps the discussion.

I personally love making little AI cartoons to post alongside my posts, but have learned that it isn't always appreciated by others.  Especially by those who are on low resolution monitors and see small images as full screen...  I do like that you can use AI to set the record straight.  For example, I have quite a few delusional trolls who spend what I would consider to be a mentally ill amount of time spreading lies about my contributions to Bitcoin and this forum.  It is nice to be able to use AI to quickly and easily TELL THE TRUTH without emotions or egos clouding judgement.  As not everyone has the time to read through 14 years of posts to learn the truth.

To me, AI shouldn't underestimate anyway. AI captured a large market in the online world. But it needs to be used properly. For example, you may create codes through AI. You may try to create some good codes, like creating a marketplace or something like this. On the other hand, you may also create hacking codes that could help hack somehow, or you may create scamming sites through AI codes. It means it depends on your intention of using AI, either it should be discouraged or encouraged.  If your forum posts fully depend on AI, then it should be discouraged, but if you use it to fix grammar, then it shouldn't be discouraged anyway.

They aren't false positives though. They are legitimate positives.


A false positive is when wholly-human generated (AI-unassisted) text gets detected as AI-generated. This usually only happens when the detector sample size is very small (short posts).

Furthermore, I believe it is in the welfare and best interest of the forum as a whole to keep AI-generated text to a minimum, otherwise its going to start having a negative impact on the forum's SEO scores, theoretically leading to lower search rankings and decreased traffic.

Further furthermore, we should be encouraging people to learn English if they want to get paid for posting on an English language forum, instead of relying on tools that encourage laziness.

AI shouldn't be used to replace real humans on this forum, it also shouldn't be used to write on topics that you have no idea what they are about. I use AI as a helper hand in my job to boost my work and have more time for rest or personal development.

At the moment, I think that AI can be used in a few ways. AI is a great tool to summarize a big text. When someone creates a thread about big news, they can use AI to shorten text and then include a source of big text in their thread. There are also moments when someone creates a huge post, which is very boring to read. Such users should be able to use AI to shorten their text but their original, long text should also be included. I believe that it's also okay to use AI to create images, charts and other visual content to share on this forum.

I can't think of other options where AI can be tolerated besides these two cases.

But we have to draw a line. I myself will not publish anything that I have created if I pass it through an AI and it showsup as 100% AI generated by the detectors, as I discussed. Give a pass to that means giving a free pass to AI spammers.

What your colleagues have to do is to pass their text through AI detectors, and if they get a result of 100% AI generated modify the result. The rules in the nutildah's thread are quite lenient on the subject tbh, they let you post texts with up to 70% AI generated.

And to participate in this forum in the English section it's all very well that you are not a native English speaker and don't have absolute command of English but if you can't modify the 100% result to bring it down to acceptable levels using your own words it's not a matter of discrimination, you don't have enough level to participate in it.

I am going to update the OP.

The truth is that if you run an AI refined post on 5 different detector tools, you are certain to get different results; however, if you run an AI generated post on the same 5 detector tools, you will almost always get the same result--this is why you should use common sense and not base your decisions solely on what detector tools say.

This come to mind


Disclaimer on quillbot AI detector tool


Fixing grammar and punctuation marks using AI refine tools is ethical use that's the whole point of my post.

I wrote somewhere on this thread or somewhere else that some of our phones keyboard are now AI powered and auto correct grammar mistakes before you can send out any post..

No, they are not. "False positive" is a technical definition. If someone uses AI in any way and a detector detects this, then it is a legitimate positive.


I disagree; the reason is most posts currently being made to the forum are already quite bad... you only need to peek into any random topic in the Gambling, Altcoin Discussion or even Bitcoin Discussion boards to see this. Its an embarrassing state of affairs and has been for years. Now you are saying that the forum should be OK with allowing shitposters to use AI to refine their shitposts, and I disagree, because as was just stated:


You might say, "Well if a post is really that bad you should report it as spam." But the problem is the bar for what is considered "spam" is already quite low in these sections, and you are proposing it should be lowered even further.


That's not what accounts mentioned in the AI Spam Report thread are doing, but this is the excuse they will claim when they get caught. I know they're not doing it because their posts are full of expressions overused by GPT models and follow their generic format and sentence structuring, which is easily recognizable to native English speakers. This goes beyond simple translation and is more a complete overhaul of what is being expressed.

For example,


Here someone says they are using AI to correct their English, yet their posts (one of which was detected as AI-generated and deleted as spam already) are written fully in lowercase. If AI was actually correcting their English, then it would have also corrected the capitalization.

Its unwise to give the impression that posting AI-generated text on the forum is acceptable in any way, for reasons I already mentioned here.