"bitcoin adoption"

so you want people to adopt bitcoin by using a network thats not even bitcoin
so you want people to adopt bitcoin by recruits learning to tip in millisats (a unit of measure bitcoin doesnt use)
so you want people to adopt bitcoin by recruits using a wallet where payment experience is instant, learning nothing about bitcoins experience of 10min confirms
so you want people to adopt bitcoin by recruits learning to tip in a network where payments are not bitcoin addresses but weirder url invoice data
so you want people to adopt bitcoin by recruits learning to tip in value thats hard to actually unlock back to real spendable bitcoin on the bitcoin network

heres the funny
for someone to have a bitcoin address someone can make it themselves for fre and publish it
for someone to have a LN address they have to partner and prefund a channel or rent some inbound balance channel

LN is a totally different network, different type of payments system, and not really adopting bitcoin because to be able to get real BTC you have to wait for tips to pile up to escape LN to get enough btc to be worth using bitcoin

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its like saying you want people to adopt gold ounce coins.. by offering people to buy and sell and do give-aways of brass costume jewellery

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seems to me you are just a LN affiliate getting paid for each user you can recruit to rent a channel from a LN hub service.
seems to me you are just a costume jewellery affiliate getting paid for each user you can recruit into a contract committing them to buy costume jewellery

My interest in this project isn’t driven by speculation—it’s about making Bitcoin a natural part of everyday life. Over the past three years, I’ve witnessed how BTC empowers financial sovereignty and transforms lives. I’m committed to spreading Bitcoin adoption because I believe in its ability to liberate people from the traditional financial system.

This project is funded by a longtime Bitcoiner who’s held BTC for 12 years and supports our research. My partner Richard and I have developed a compact digital tipping device powered by the Lightning Network so that when a BTC holder tips, its in-built configurable split payment function instantly and transparently divides the tip among all staff. In this way, every micro-tip—measured in sats—accumulates over time, empowering your team to build their BTC balance without having to purchase Bitcoin. This also addresses one of the largest problems with tips, transparent and fair tip splitting. We also encourage the tip accepting business to move the BTC off the lightning platform as often as possible to constantly keep up the not your keys not your BTC policy we practice ourselves. 

For partners, particularly distributors, the model is designed to be mutually beneficial. Distributors can acquire these devices at a highly subsidized rate of $15 per unit (from a $30 production cost) and install them at no cost to the business. Once deployed, you remain permanently linked to the device and earn 50% of the 15% platform fee on every tip. Even if each device nets around $1 a day, that revenue covers costs and creates a passive income stream, with the potential for significant growth as Lightning adoption increases. There are about 200 devices in inventory and I am comfortable sending about 4 free devices (anymore than that would need to paid for, this would be to show you how it goes) to anyone who would be interested in being a part of the distribution network.

This initiative is about capturing the Bitcoin already circulating in vibrant communities—through local meetups, conventions, and everyday transactions—and redirecting it to empower employees. It’s not about chasing speculative profits; it’s about a sustainable, grassroots movement that benefits everyone involved.

I truly appreciate your perspective on Bitcoin speculation being an individual task. In contrast, this project aims to harness collective action to build a robust Bitcoin ecosystem. If you’re interested in exploring this further, I’d be happy to discuss it more.

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Look, I understand the skepticism, but you’re missing the bigger picture. Our project isn’t about forcing anyone into a separate network or renting channels—it’s about harnessing the power of Lightning to capture the Bitcoin already flowing in our communities. The core strength is in its configurable split payment function. This isn’t just tech for tech’s sake; it’s designed for complete transparency. Every tip is split instantly among all staff, putting Bitcoin directly into their pockets without any hassle or room for misappropriation (no more stealing from the tip jar). That’s exactly what transparency is meant for.


Yes, we use units like millisats and LN invoice data—that’s simply how the Lightning Network operates, enabling instant, low-cost transactions that the base layer can’t match. Our device is designed to capture micro-tips from genuine BTC holders at meetups, conventions, and everyday venues, splitting the tip transparently among all staff and putting Bitcoin directly into their pockets.

This isn’t some gimmick or speculative side hustle. It’s a practical tool to make Bitcoin accessible, allowing people to accumulate BTC without having to buy it upfront. We’re relying on the natural trickle-down effect of Bitcoiners who, with their goodwill, willingly tip small amounts—each tip contributing to grassroots adoption and real financial empowerment.

Our focus is on using the strengths of Lightning to turn every tip into a stepping stone towards a broader Bitcoin standard. Rather than dealing in “costume jewelry,” we’re capturing real BTC from active users and channeling it into everyday transactions. If you’re stuck on traditional models, you might be missing the innovative potential of microtransactions in driving widespread BTC adoption.

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i understand you want to promote "the big picture" but your picture wont match the demography of people you are aiming at, nor their actual experience they see, nor be the promised picture you suggest
i have seen many services promote to people about getting BTC, but what they end up playing with is nothing like BTC

again ill explain and i hope you put a scenario hat on where you play the participant/recipient. and not the dogma hat of your promotion side.
(play your own devils advocate for your own business risk assessment, dont jsut dream the utopia you promote)

so again. for people to get "instant" millisat in a channel set to them, without them having to load up a node and self funding a channel, it involves your end giving them inbound balance. this is not going to be them receiving over $100 worth to unlock at $2onchain fee, and they get to keep $98 worth of btc
instead when a person gives YOUR COMPANY $20 tip in BTC as part of a $100 purchase(viable on bitcoin network) and then its "split" (using different utxo thats locked into LN) split between a crew of 30 employees they are only going to get (as you admit) MICROTIPS of under $1 in millisat value which would be lost in just the onchain fee if they tried to convert to 'BTC in their pocket'

infact probably(standard procedure of many similar services) because you are the UTXO key owner of the channel you wont allow people to even close a channel unless they have inbound balance of X amount first..
so the experience which staff receiving tips would be, is that they cant even buy a their kids candy that evening with the tip they received that day, nor can they have "BTC IN THEIR POCKET"

they never experience bitcoin. and their tip is stuck in some buggy network thats useless to them.. they only experience a different network thats nothing like bitcoin and comes with alot of conditions and the funds are not actually theirs 'in their pocket'.. yet they will blame and hate bitcoin because they were told their tips were "bitcoin"

when you forget about your business plan and truly understand the real purpose of bitcoin (removing the middleman and making people their own bank), what the recipients receive is not that.
instead:
they feel that bitcoin is a scam
they feel that bitcoin is not worth getting to know,

yet they have never even experienced bitcoin through your offering. thus you give bitcoin a bad name even though you are not even using the bitcoin network with those people you are trying to recruit into your service offering

look at how fast el salvador dropped LN when they had devices to take payments promoted as bitcoin, but was really backboned using LN. there were riots and protests crucifying bitcoin, even though it was a LN problem, and everyone went back to using $$ instead of the chivo wallet pretending to be BTC(when it was LN based)

yep el salvador built physical chivo devices(things like ATM's that accepted nickels and dimes.. things like dumbed down smartphoes set just for chivo use) that communicated with retail customers to take LN(pretending to be bitcoin) payments, and within a year retailers were literally throwing the devices in the trash.. the same is going to happen for you

they might aswell have got their boss to accept paypal/venmo and then had a algo to do split payments of $$
your demography of people you are trying to adopt bitcoin is all wrong. you trying to adopt waitresses that will only get a couple $$ after splits.. amounts not really fitting for bitcoiners

the microtransaction crowd of waitresses and barmen wont like the experience because they cant take their tips home at the end of the night in their pocket to buy their kids some candy.. nor will they get to experience bitcoin...
instead they experience LN but blame bitcoin and think its bitcoin that is broke and full of crappy things

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so can you atleast do one thing.. stop promoting that LN is bitcoin.

you might want to do a proper business study on the actions of el salvador inregards to the LN backbone varient of chivo(sept 2021-early 2022)
for your own business risk assessment

Look, you say they “can’t even buy their kids candy” with these microtips, but you’re missing the point. Our device splits every tip instantly, so even tiny sats add up over time into real Bitcoin. We urge you to move the BTC off the dashboard by generating an on-chain address with your cold storage wallet, transfer your sats from the system which has a withdraw function, and verify the transaction—securing true BTC that accumulates gradually. This isn’t about flashy payouts; it’s about building BTC without having to buy it upfront. Every sat counts, and as Lightning adoption grows, these microtips will turn into significant value. Instead of dismissing our approach as worthless, recognize that we’re empowering everyday users with genuine, transparent Bitcoin ownership.

Furthermore I do agree that this post is relevant to the service section as well, my goal isn’t to set up an investment scheme but to drive Bitcoin adoption by making BTC accessible through a practical service. I work for a wealthy Bitcoiner who’s dedicated to educating people about BTC’s true value—its ability to grant financial sovereignty and help you break free from a system designed to keep us from achieving abundance.

The tipping device, powered by Lightning, is a service tool—not a speculative investment. It captures circulating BTC in everyday venues and automatically splits every tip among staff, enabling them to build sats over time without having to purchase Bitcoin. Any earnings are simply used to sustain and grow the project, ensuring that the device remains free for tip-accepting businesses and that distributors are rewarded for their efforts as well.

This is a grassroots, service-driven initiative focused solely on empowering communities and demonstrating Bitcoin’s practical utility. If you’re interested in discussing this as a service and helping spread Bitcoin adoption, I’m open to a genuine conversation.