no prob, I only hope that I will finish the German translation (no bounty) in time

Please explain why you, a member of the community, are publicly posting all manner of speculation and conspiracy theory on this thread - the first port of call for people who want to see what Karma is about - when you have stated you have no proof whatsoever that what you are saying is true?

Would it be to much to ask that you substantiate your rumors and speculation with verifiable evidence?

You also speak of 'we' - other than yourself, who else are you referring to?

The best way to decipher negative posts or 'FUD' from members is to ask "Ok, who is set up to benefit from all of this?" - In every negative upchuck, every FUD, there is a subtle (or not so subtle) attempt to push someone is one direction or another that will ultimately benefit the person posting in ways seen and unseen. In this situation, the party who benefits from all this nonsense is P2pools - in particular, a certain pool certain members have been promoting and admitted to being in discussion with.

In both their posts they have attempted to get people to switch to their pool with the enticement of rewards and zero fees. It matters not what their intentions are - they are holding themselves out as promoting a pool through the use of negative speculation and baseless accusations.

They should never have mentioned their connection with this certain p2pool - you cannot give free and frank advice to a community when you are set to benefit from that advice should people decide to follow it.

Keep up the discussion guys! It's healthy to talk things over.

BTW, to those who are not familiar with the recently approved facebook-wide-tipping-app from white puma, here is how it works: You search for "Multicoin Tipping App" from FB search bar then click and "CONNECT" to it at the bottom of the page that pops. Like any other apps it will now show at the left hand side of your FB home page.

If you click on it from there, it will take you to your tipping dashboard, from there you will see 27 tipping coins name with wallet addresses and the coins you got so far. Clicking a particular coin will show you other info relating exclusively about that coin, now you can click a tab labeled "info" and all the "authorized tipping groups" at the moment will be shown.

If you would care to join all of them, they welcome everyone.

Then later when our community have a news to share, a cheer to shout or a coin to spare, you will be ready to help in spreading good Karma.

Because when you tip somebody and they comment or liked it, all their friends will see that ,and so the karma related curiosity grows.

So we encourage you to ride the tipping wave. Even Bitcoins, Litecoins and Darkcoins are now available fo tipping.

See you there!

Firstly,  I limit my criticism to those posts in question - whoever they were made by.

Secondly, The theoretical potential for an attack is not justification for posting that one may or may not have happened and enticing people to use a certain pool - as was the case yesterday.

If it can be shown that there was verifiable evidence to justify the posts made then that would be a start. However, as I said earlier, this thread is usually the first port of call for many people who just want to get an idea of what a coin stands for and its future as perceived by the community. Knowing this, it is simply a bad idea to make posts in the nature of those that were made yesterday.

Concerns that have the potential to cause panic among the unwary should be brought to the attention of the developer privately, where the dev team can discuss them and come up with a solution if one is so required. There are ways of dealing with concerns - and I stand by what I have said; the way in which the concerns were publicly aired yesterday was not appropriate.

Speculation and rumor become problematic when people are encouraged to act on it.

hah. alright everyone chill out.

there was no FUD. Mintpal was under double spend attack. if anything them raising the confirmation to 200 should be enough to see this was no FUD. What is not known yet is whether this was an organized attack or a non human error attack.

As we can see. our dedicated overall pools have about 600 mh/s between them all and our total network is at 2700-3100 Mh/s . This tells us that there are tons more hash pointed at our coin. we do not know whether they are coming from individual solo mining, one multi pool. couple multipools or any other combination. What we do now know is that at least one of them for a few minutes had more then enough to cause a fork of its own.

this is what Agcrypto stated in his message. He had okay from all of us. Yup, we assigned him to deliver this news once we had enough to share with you. We agreed that even though this attack looked to be an accidental it was still an attack that did occur and we thought the community should know about it right away. not sure why you think otherwise but our trading volumes have been healthy all day today. this news did not couase any panic. only drama in this forum.

As we have stated many times we are not trying to be overloads and hide stuff to minimize and control the truth. The attacked happened and we had no choice but to immediately let everyone know. It had nothing to do with personal point of views.

@CatKiwi  :
AGcrypto , me and altcoingood are part of the karma team. You can look up our history and see that everything we do, say or think its for the best of the coin.

So lets talk about the p2p pool that you are accusing me and altcoingood pushing for it. Your making us come as villains. taking advantage of a FUD to what... build a pool monopoly?  out of what?? pool mining fees?

We should be thankful to any pool that is running a pool for us. Let's do some math to satisfy your accusation towards our agenda to own the network with our supreme pool!

if by a miracle the p2p mines all the block for a whole day this would gain the p2p pool a whopping 792,000 karma coins a day! again out of 1440 block x 110,000 coins and then a 0.005 pool fee = 792,000 kama.

Wow. good thing you caught us there mang. you really saved all the miners who would mine 158 mill coin that day 792,000 less!

Hope this give you an idea how much pools make a day in fees. and this is an example if the p2p pool mines all the coin. which will never be realistic. So once we are done pushing this much the p2p pool would have to make 1/3 of that. thats 264000 karma a day! and this is not even taking into account the huge block reward halving in few days

I personally am not involved with altcoingood pool. i never received any payments from him as a reward for helping him.

Why i am helping promoting his pool is because he is 24/7 active with out coin. He has done most then all of us in helping sustain many critical obstacles we have had with karma. He has set up for us our first reddit tipbot. he has set up our block explorer. he has set up two static nodes that even at this day are crucial to help new people link up to our network. he had set up p2p pool months back when we realized that karma.multi-pool.eu has more then %80 of our mining hash. He has set up MPOS pool as well.

Not only has he done all this. but he has kept them up and running all this time. We have never rewarded him with our coins. everything he has done has been genuine. And he has paid it out of his own pocket. Because he is a code geek and he has a good hart. He sees we need his services.

Why do i mention all this? because i would like all of you , who come and go in our coin community , to be up to date and realized why i am rooting for his p2p pool

An other very important topic is that if we would need altcoingood to boot off miners from his pool he would do it and not cry foul as we have seen from our top pool.

dear Catwiki hope this was enough info to clear some confusion. we are creating an necessary dramas with our post. Msg me and we can take this private. or come to #karmacoin and let us assure you there is no hiden agenda. I want karma to go fully P2p Pool so in future we do not have any other attacks!

Ps : its good to have you back. if i recall form last time , you mention you sold your coins to 70 litoshi because you thought our coin was not worth it and it should come back down to 40s. after you saw that our coin was not coming back to even 100s litoshis you realized your not getting the coins back. then you dissapeared for a while. didn hear from you in this chat. not interested in us once you sold your coin huh? then you bought back at 120 litoshi and again started to get active when you saw our coin reach 250.  

Hey all, maybe it is time to nominate a Technical Moderator as Kosmos indicated before.  First of all, I don't know anything about all the back-end technical stuff that you all are talking about.  I don't mine but I do own a lot of Karma.  So from the outside looking in, and any new potential Karma holder it doesn't flow well with "doing good is good" in this exact forum.  Since this topic is so important I'm sure it would be worthy of its very own place.  BTW, these are good problems to have.  It means Karma has real value.   

Less than 5 days before the reward goes to a 1/3.  Much on the horizon.

Does anybody know how many hits per day LILL is getting?  Last Kos posted was 3000 over a few days time frame.  So conservatively estimate 250 to 300 per day would be over a 100,00 per year.  I have a feeling we should be getting some advertisers soon.

That's a fair explanation of the action you have taken - it is just a pitty it was not included in the original post.

What is your official role in the Karmateam?