we full agree

just if someone wana create a temporary pool it would be a option
or set up a p2pool
(could ask for higher fees for more bandwith useage)
until we fixed the stratum combatible mining

cpu miner as example or singlegpu miner would sure spend the extra fee to mine on a temporary getwork pool to escape the find block lotto

its not like we earn anything if we give the hint that such a pool could pay off his aditional "resource costs"

I don't think you can speak for everyone, because I don't want to get out of the solomining. There is a great sense of gratification that comes from accomplishing it on my own.

But I also don't want to be pushed out by pools.  It'll be bitcoin all over in that solomining will die quickly and pools will reign supreme.

Maybe its time to make my own coin which forbids pool mining.

Well, there are two sides to this. Introducing mining pools would indeed centralise mining, adding stratum which uses getblocktemplate makes it more secure for the network. But in essence they do the same job and 90% of miners wouldn't see any difference whether it's stratum or not. 'Getwork' pool is indeed a bandwidth hog but such pool would be a temporary measure until we release stratum compatible client.
Solo mining is a game of luck, you never know when you would come up with the correct hash - the more power you have the higher your chances, however already several people gave up on solo mining because of difficulty being too high for them. Mining pool with PPS for example is a different matter it allows whoever with whatever mining gear to join in and get paid for the amount of shares he contributed. We would definitely see more people mining making the coin available to greater group of people. Big MegaHashers would still keep their share while smaller ones would not waste their electricity in vain waiting for the miracle.

I think it should be a democratic decision and the community should choose which path to take. If there was someone who would set up an oldschool pool we would see how much hash support he would get and how much solo miners ...

danbi's DMD pool - never received a confirmation email. If you'd like me to test on your pool, please unlock my account

Ok well now it looks like it is good to go. Deleted the block and redownloaded from the mega.co link. Seems to be ok now...weird!

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Mining calculation is now working for Diamonds with Groestl algo!

Check the detail page for 24h & 30 days difficulty and price stats. All values are nearly realtime, max. 60 secs delay.

atm no where got to wait till cryptsy fixes wallet

It is very probable that the code changes in the wallet to make pool mining work will require another hard work. If pool mining was functional today, much fewer wallets would exist and thus much less wallets needed to be updated.

Now, with so many solo miners, it will be great nightmare to implement such fix, and it must be done right the first time, as otherwise things will get even worse.

What pool mining achieves is exactly the opposite of what you stated: more smaller miners will join, because they cannot "sanely" mine at the current difficulty. Forget all the "statistics" and "luck" explanations -- when you tell someone they need to mine a week in order to find (eventually) a diamond, they will just prefer to mine something else. You don't solo mine Bitcoin nor even Litecoin anymore, do you?

The statistics part of this is more or less correct. However, pools to not exists only to concentrate hash power -- at least not the classic pools. This is more a feature of the p2pool type pools, that do indeed promote hopping.

A "normal" mining pool is more of a coin network service. It not only provides for more even earnings, but also additional services, such as worker monitoring, various statistics, communication etc.

A coin can survive without any working pool, everything solo mined. But, imagine someone invests in huge hash power and is able to solo mine most of the coins. When you don't find a single diamond in a week or a month, you will eventually give up and that guy will end up with all the coins. It's statistics again...
In situations like this, you could look at pools as the nuclear weapons in the Cold War era

Anyway, again: look at pools as service to miners. This is what they do best. The small payments is secondary.

Okay, understood. A current diff of 35 with Groestl would be the rough equivalent of a previous 3.5 diff with scrypt. Basically the same 10 : 1 change that we've seen in hashrate terms (although I calculate that my machines have an average increase on the order of 8.94 : 1).

So a current 40 diff is really the same as a 4 from before, giving us (using my 35 guesstimate) an approximate current scrypt network equivalent hashrate of 270 MH/s or an approximate groestl network hashrate of 2.7 GH/s.

As you said, not bad considering that it's all solo mining!!!

More than 3 times the average network hashrate from April 8 to April 21.




Very nice. Thanks for that.