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That was a brutal demonstration of heavy handedness displayed by those guys, gmax and lukejr. Fortunately, they were proven wrong in the end. The bitcoin.org press center they were promoting got shot down, Ver got added to Andreas' new site, and Matonis went on to serve 2y as TBF head. Justice got served.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/162#issuecomment-17151432The really sad thing to note here is that those devs never relented to the majority opinion expressed in that GitHub thread. Sirius, the owner of bitcoin.org actually had to be contacted after 2 or so years of being in seclusion to resolve the dispute.
Martti Malmi, aka Sirius. He needs no introduction, but he is somewhat reclusive these days so it's not clear that he'd necessarily appreciate the nomination. Incidentally, he is the owner of the bitcoin.org domain.-Andreas
Sirius was shocked as to how these devs were ruling over his domain and immediately shut down their press center and demurred to Andreas' new site.
And the other shocker? To this day, gmax sincerely believes he "won" that battle.
gmax and lukejr are not original cryptoanarchists. they are techno-communists. here's a follow up discussion i had with gmax last month. note the complete lack of contrition on his part regarding the Press Center debacle despite widespread community disapproval and at least 2 other high profile community members directly against them (Andreas and Trace Mayer) in the dispute along with myself. from Reddit:
from nullc [-9] sent 1 month ago
The news center? lol. Becuase I thought it was imprudent to list a convicted felon as top contact on Bitcoin.org? You haven't a clue how much seedy and scammy stuff has been going on behind the scenes, I guess. That whole shitshow with Shrem and the Foundation? That half the foundation's board will no longer enter the US? It's important that Bitcoin the technology and the currency keep a distance from people's unlawful stunts (regardless of what we think about the morality of the laws), so that when the shit hits the fan Bitcoin can keep running.
I have no regrets about any of that, and I'm somewhat surprised to not hear from you... "You know, you were right."
me:
this just goes to show how differently we see things. i was hoping you'd say the same thing to me. b/c in the end, Andreas' site is what became the preferred go to Press Center and included Ver and Matonis, nevermind the community outrage over what you guys did.I like gmax and his work. I have never met him(he does not know me) but I understand what how and why he wants to say.
=> He is not techno-communists.
It is not easy to understand. It is all about math logic.
https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/318279.0I am fascinated by Tim May's crypto-anarchy. Unlike the communities traditionally associated with the word "anarchy", in a crypto-anarchy the government is not temporarily destroyed but permanently forbidden and permanently unnecessary. It's a community where the threat of violence is impotent because violence is impossible, and violence is impossible because its participants cannot be linked to their true names or physical locations.
Until now it's not clear, even theoretically, how such a community could operate. A community is defined by the cooperation of its participants, and efficient cooperation requires a medium of exchange (money) and a way to enforce contracts. Traditionally these services have been provided by the government or government sponsored institutions and only to legal entities. In this article I describe a protocol by which these services can be provided to and by untraceable entities.
Edit:
Bitcoin(money) + SC(a way to enforce contracts) can replace "Traditionally services(government)".
Edit2:
- do not trust gmax
- do not trust government
- your signature in blockchain-2 is proving what you did (and wanted to do)
