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    January 04, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
     #2281
    Quote from: defunctec on January 04, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
    Quote from: frontier8 on January 04, 2015, 02:22:48 PM
    I guess they are the same person behind different accounts.

    Not quite. More like different people with the same goal.

    Apologies, was playing scrabble with my wife and will shortly be going to the Arsenal match.

    I'll send Mr Spread a message when I get back. 

    I only spend time on this thread because I see possible value in sharing developments and collaborating between SPR and DRK.  I'm very much one person with one account (go to Darkcoin.io if you want to check) and no negative intentions towards this coin.  Just because I haven't sent a message to Mr Spread about a possible exploit in the future of this coin within a few hours doesn't mean I'm trying to fuck with your coin  Cheesy

    I have no doubt it would be fixable if it is indeed an exploit.

    Is there a Spreadcoin testnet?

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    January 04, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
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    Quote from: AlexGR on January 04, 2015, 01:19:18 PM
    The important thing is to have a dev that can code. If he can do that, then he can also change or adapt the code to things that will come up.



    +1   It is the abilities of Mr Spread that drew my attention to this coin in the first place.

    Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

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    January 04, 2015, 03:05:01 PM
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    Quote from: stonehedge on January 04, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
    Quote from: AlexGR on January 04, 2015, 01:19:18 PM
    The important thing is to have a dev that can code. If he can do that, then he can also change or adapt the code to things that will come up.



    +1   It is the abilities of Mr Spread that drew my attention to this coin in the first place.

    Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.
    I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.

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    January 04, 2015, 03:17:59 PM
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    Quote from: stonehedge on January 04, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
    Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

    It should be possible to crawl the blockchain for which address has mined each block. I could probably script this if I could build a local block explorer...  Undecided

    That may be as close as you're going to get though - just as it's impossible to assume true coin distribution via address as someone can have multiple wallets/addresses.

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    January 04, 2015, 03:20:17 PM
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    Quote from: frontier8 on January 04, 2015, 03:05:01 PM
    I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.

    Exactly the same way any BTC derived wallet does so. (I imagine, and don't ask me for the exact mechanics of that.  Cheesy)

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    January 04, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
     #2286
    Quote from: stonehedge on January 04, 2015, 01:02:05 PM
    Quote from: coins101 on January 04, 2015, 01:31:37 AM
    I believe I have found what could be a very serious problem with solo mining SPR and master nodes.

    Best of luck when you get to that point.

    Genuinely not intended as FUD. I think I know what Coins is talking about. Either Mr spread has plans to fix this problem already or the dev team haven't scrutinised the work that Kristov Atlas did for Darkcoin in the context of spreadcoin.

    Does Spreadcoin have a testnet? Would be interested to take part in masternode testing.

    It IS by definition FUD if the issue isn't communicated to the dev or the community.

    There isn't a testnet yet.

    I'll put a 300 SPR bounty on a miners hash chart.

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    January 04, 2015, 03:49:45 PM
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    Quote from: thelonecrouton on January 04, 2015, 03:17:59 PM
    Quote from: stonehedge on January 04, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
    Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

    It should be possible to crawl the blockchain for which address has mined each block. I could probably script this if I could build a local block explorer...  Undecided

    That may be as close as you're going to get though - just as it's impossible to assume true coin distribution via address as someone can have multiple wallets/addresses.

    That may not be that easy either TLC. I've noticed that my own rig uses a different address for each block thus far. I'm throwing about 1.3 Mh at the network and the couple blocks I've found, each have a different addy. I never set up a dedicated addy for mining in the config file by the way.

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    January 04, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
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    If you know about how solo mining can affect masternodes then you can PM me or post it here. I haven't received any messages about it.

    Regarding hashrate distribution chart, it was asked some time ago:
    Quote from: Mr. Spread on December 03, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
    Quote from: thelonecrouton on December 02, 2014, 10:17:28 PM
    Also, are there any nethash analysis/distribution tools available, possible, in the pipeline?
    Due to more decentralized nature it is harder to perform such analysis for SpreadCoin. You need to monitor which node will be the first to broadcast the block. For Bitcoin you can just connect to all major pools which is not a problem as they probably are running on a good servers. Since there are no pools in SpreadCoin you will need to connect to as many nodes as you can and still the fact that some node was the first to broadcast some block doesn't mean that this block was mined by this node, it may be just distributing block which was mined by node to which you are not connected. Many computers in internet are behind NAT or don't accept incoming connections for some other reasons, the only way to be connected to such nodes is if they will connect to you which may never happen.
    This doesn't mean that it is impossible but hashrate distribution analysis may be less reliable than in cryptocurrencies with pools.
    No such analysis is available yet.
    You can try to search blockchain for the same mining addresses but by default each new block is mined on a different address.
    Developer of SpreadCoin

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    January 04, 2015, 04:13:53 PM
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    Quote from: frontier8 on January 04, 2015, 03:05:01 PM
    I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.
    Divide the work required to generate last 120 blocks by the time interval it took to generate these blocks.
    Developer of SpreadCoin

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    January 04, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
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    Here's an interesting analysis on the number of mined BTC that have to be dumped per day just to cover electricity costs:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rajx5/a_minimum_of_1470_bitcoins_has_to_be_dumped_on/

    I'm curious if anyone has thought of doing any analysis on how SPR being decentralized may change this for Spreadcoin, if it does at all.  I personally don't see it being avoided unless we implement a methodology where people with extremely low hash are still provided some SPR like I alluded to in a previous post.

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    January 04, 2015, 04:52:01 PM
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    Quote from: MyFarm on January 04, 2015, 04:42:51 PM
    Here's an interesting analysis on the number of mined BTC that have to be dumped per day just to cover electricity costs:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rajx5/a_minimum_of_1470_bitcoins_has_to_be_dumped_on/

    I'm curious if anyone has thought of doing any analysis on how SPR being decentralized may change this for Spreadcoin, if it does at all.  I personally don't see it being avoided unless we implement a methodology where people with extremely low hash are still provided some SPR like I alluded to in a previous post.
    I think the price will stay stable or hover at 20K sato for weeks.
    Cheap dumping time is over.

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    January 04, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
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    I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
    More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
    I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
    3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
    If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
    After 30s or so the error message is:
    Code:
    [2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
    seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

    If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
    My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

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    January 04, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
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    Quote from: jjjordan on January 04, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
    I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
    More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
    I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
    3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
    If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
    After 30s or so the error message is:
    Code:
    [2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
    seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

    If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
    My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

    To correct this, use the '--gpu-map' option to correctly map the GPU number seen by OpenCL with the GPU number seen by ADL.

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    January 04, 2015, 05:12:40 PM
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    Quote from: Mr. Spread on January 04, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
    If you know about how solo mining can affect masternodes then you can PM me or post it here. I haven't received any messages about it.

    Regarding hashrate distribution chart, it was asked some time ago:
    Quote from: Mr. Spread on December 03, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
    Quote from: thelonecrouton on December 02, 2014, 10:17:28 PM
    Also, are there any nethash analysis/distribution tools available, possible, in the pipeline?
    Due to more decentralized nature it is harder to perform such analysis for SpreadCoin. You need to monitor which node will be the first to broadcast the block. For Bitcoin you can just connect to all major pools which is not a problem as they probably are running on a good servers. Since there are no pools in SpreadCoin you will need to connect to as many nodes as you can and still the fact that some node was the first to broadcast some block doesn't mean that this block was mined by this node, it may be just distributing block which was mined by node to which you are not connected. Many computers in internet are behind NAT or don't accept incoming connections for some other reasons, the only way to be connected to such nodes is if they will connect to you which may never happen.
    This doesn't mean that it is impossible but hashrate distribution analysis may be less reliable than in cryptocurrencies with pools.
    No such analysis is available yet.
    You can try to search blockchain for the same mining addresses but by default each new block is mined on a different address.
    Mr.spread,could you please reveal some news about the status of MN development before they are officially released later this month?

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    January 04, 2015, 05:28:58 PM
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    Quote from: frontier8 on January 04, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
    Quote from: jjjordan on January 04, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
    I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
    More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
    I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
    3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
    If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
    After 30s or so the error message is:
    Code:
    [2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
    seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
    [2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

    If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
    My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

    To correct this, use the '--gpu-map' option to correctly map the GPU number seen by OpenCL with the GPU number seen by ADL.

    I don't see how this is related. As I already stated it is 4 different PCs. Each one has nvidia only or amd only cards. No APUs - all are CPUs.
    When all of them are working if I stop an nvidia one it comes with that error message when restarted. No such problem with AMD one.

    Anyhow - I found a workaround by starting them in this particular order (AMD last) and it works fine.

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    January 04, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
    Last edit: January 04, 2015, 11:51:21 PM by e1ghtSpace
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    Quote from: Mr. Spread on July 29, 2014, 07:58:19 AM

    SpreadCoin

    Truly Decentralized
    In Bitcoin mining power is centralised by large pools. This puts the whole network at risk if these pools become malicious or if their security is compromised. In SpreadCoin there are no pools, mining power is spread around many solo miners.
    Just a small fix...

    Edit:

    Does anyone ever wonder if Mr. Spread is satoshi? Smiley

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    January 04, 2015, 09:35:30 PM
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    Quote from: e1ghtSpace on January 04, 2015, 05:51:51 AM
    Who likes my signature?

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    Edit: You will not believe how long it took me to get my addresses (with colour) in that right hand corner. Smiley If you want the code for that then here it is:

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    You might be able to get way with taking out most of the spaces to save some characters. They're in there to force the table's cell as wide as it can go so that the signature sticks to the right side of the screen and not the cell (which ends up being in the middle of the screen). Wink



    Nice work.

    The only thing I prefered was I changed the middle link of mine to the mining help guide for a quick reference rather than two home page links.

    'https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/715435.msg9980038#msg9980038'

    Seriously great job. Im sure that was a pain in the a**.
    Im baaaack! Looking for sig campaign. DM me if interested.

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    January 04, 2015, 09:46:00 PM
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    our vulnerability found in the hash coin. Mein Merger prey. http://dc.cointellect.com/

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    January 04, 2015, 09:53:18 PM
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    Quote from: CashFlow on January 04, 2015, 09:46:00 PM
    our vulnerability found in the hash coin. Mein Merger prey. http://dc.cointellect.com/

    What are you saying exactly?
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    January 04, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
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    Quote from: e1ghtSpace on January 04, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
    Quote from: Mr. Spread on July 29, 2014, 07:58:19 AM

    SpreadCoin

    Truly Decentralized
    In Bitcoin mining power is concentrated in large pools. This puts the whole network at risk if these pools become malicious or if their security is compromised. In SpreadCoin there are no pools, mining power is spread around many solo miners.
    Just a small fix...

    Edit:

    Does anyone ever wonder if Mr. Spread is satoshi? Smiley
    That thought had crossed my mind Smiley But all I know is that whomever dumped their SpreadCoin is definitely going to be regretting it once Mr. Spread implements Masternodes and other features to SpreadCoin Smiley I've been collecting as much as I can you would think I am a goddamn Pokemon trainer because "I gotta catch'em ALL!!!" LOL anyways good to see some solid signatures promoting Spreadcoin guys Smiley like it a lot Smiley
     
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