To be honest your "explanation" leaves a lot to be desired, but the part that is particularly offending is this one.

You're making it sound that your complete failure to handle the situation didn't have any effect on investors' losses. You are forgetting that your site had lost the trust and faced with the extremely improbable high-roller many investors pulled out at a huge loss, 85% in many cases. There was also your own announcement that you will go "private", what do you think was the effect of that?

At the very least you could have publish the list of investments and divestments to show how many investors including yourself actually benefited from these events. I'm sure there are many other actions you could take to provide more transparency if you were really interested in that. But the fact that you are still choosing to blame "trolls" and other mythical creatures for your actions and making this feeble attempt to put a PR spin on the issue is telling me to stay far far away from your site and suggest to everyone to do the same.

You're right, I keep forgetting this effect of the size of the bankroll even though it's been explained to me more than once. Bankroll was at 900+ when mateo started losing, and ended at ~1600. Not even double. So it turns out that some mysterious new investors who came in between mateo's win and loss benefited the most. Good for them.

Here is the updated list as promised, including original stake!

The list with affected users and vouchers follows:



ID          USERNAME     TOTAL AFFECTED         ALREADY REFUNDED           WE OWE                 VOUCHER                                        EXTRA REFUND(with base bet returned as well)
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861       cuwirebeard          7.1556                     5.90107777                 1.25452223            DICE-OOMZ-RHAO-VVJM-NADM-VPID     0.804            DICE-OJZO-PEUN-KQLY-WDGR-KADQ
4153    chris.jakubowski    0.17653184                       0                          0.17653184            DICE-WRER-RGQN-WBQK-SAKG-YVCY  0.17653184     DICE-PYDZ-XJJD-INOK-VCMX-REWX
4433    presto                 0.92611544                       0                           0.92611544            DICE-SGXP-HDOH-NQIJ-OBHR-BSNH   0.22145          DICE-MNRT-AOJT-XSCZ-BXVV-UMLE
12599    RNG                   6.93989901                2.62806461                 4.3118344              DICE-IQPB-VQHY-KRQN-NJLW-LLRQ      1.0451           DICE-EYQD-SCYQ-XLBB-JBTA-PEOH
13835    Altitude             0.51368555                       0                          0.51368555            DICE-YVKB-WGVS-LROH-QUHU-QKNT    0.51368555    DICE-CWFF-VJDM-SYEV-KIYS-ZRBW
16189    andyazz            1.49798912                       0                          1.49798912            DICE-KTAW-CVNY-QCTR-BSBT-POYV     0.8192          DICE-RQGL-HIXB-AOOE-WDVV-KWBK
16511   marcellus_hand   1.23665803                        0                          1.23665803            DICE-GLXJ-BGHY-DNHT-JPXB-UKCD     2.54803968     DICE-TVMN-LBFF-VXFN-QOMJ-YVTV
16657   kinki                   1.234375                          0                          1.234375               DICE-POMK-UXEH-EACC-IYDC-YHHK    0.3125            DICE-MCON-KPUZ-CIOT-NHIH-WBVR
18541   coty_predovic     27.64702008                     20                        7.64702008             DICE-IEZN-HFKV-OEUX-RTXE-WPBD    1.03255611      DICE-ZCVC-TOUX-YDZB-HXXF-ICLV
18544   Degenerate            0.4                                0                            0.4                    DICE-RVYD-WUQQ-NTPH-YIEJ-TJKH     0.4                 DICE-TLEA-XXQN-NCSZ-RGMW-JFVZ
19864   marie_lemke         55.18                            35.1                         20.08                  DICE-WFQT-YWBJ-JFSC-KLLM-LROU        6.2              DICE-NHLI-XYNK-YUYW-JXWK-GDFX
19914  lewis.aufderhar     1.781328                          0                           1.781328              DICE-CIFJ-FTUE-OSIP-MYIU-RPWD       1.20768          DICE-YTKK-HMUJ-OSDU-BIEB-OOFO
20178  esperanza.ritchie  1.74797619                       0                        1.74797619             DICE-HHWZ-LVKF-ZVMM-HRLK-UJQD      1.36994048     DICE-QYGY-QTJD-DADC-ULKF-HMDD
10637  themikego           1.50665557                 2.85665558                       0  
18165  Focus                   7.5                          8.00258683                       0
6769    finnile                  2.80773526                    2                           0.80773526   DICE-XVHT-HNEV-UTNG-TNCL-ZVZG                                                                                                      
16416  James                       7                       14.3792809                        0

Note vouchers are bind to account, meaning only the spesific userid/username can claim it!

I will be afk almost whole day due to some family situations. I will try to get back to any replies/conserns later at night.

As far as I'm concerned at this point, there are just three points I'd like to make.

1) You've done the right thing with reimbursing skipped winning nonces. I don't think anyone here anticipated it. I give you credit for doing the right thing.

2) I'm tired of the Mateo conspiracy theory. I believed Mateo was an inside job, but like everyone else here I had nothing to base it on except suspicion. The difference was that I wouldn't go so far as to be repeating it as established truth like some of the idiots in this thread who think that improbability and impossibility are the same thing, and then list a bunch of garbage nonsense math to prove how right they were, which again didn't prove anything about impossibility. At this point, I could continue to believe Mateo was an inside job and that you then pretended to have him lose it all back just so you could reimburse skipped nonses and make a comeback because your intention is to scam everyone in the future for real this time (when you had a chance to do so the first time and didn't), but that particular conspiracy theory is getting more and more ridiculous. Bottom line, I no longer believe Mateo was an inside job, though I do not rule out the possibility that he was and you're just a brilliant chess player and have duped me. I will be operating under the assumption from this point forward that he was legit.

3) The only troubling aspect for me at this point is the "third developer." If you won't name him, he's just a shadowy scapegoat. He may exist, but without naming him I have to assume he doesn't. What that leaves me with is that your site purposefully skipped winning nonces and cheated players. Yes, you've now made it right, but that's only because you were found out. Apologizing and rectifying the situation after you're found out is the bare minimum you are expected to do. Without naming the third developer, your flaw isn't assumed to be just not checking the malicious code before it went live; it is assumed that your flaw was you coded your site to be malicious. And then you were caught. And eventually you tried to make everything right, BUT YOUR SITE WAS RIGGED AND WE HAVE TO ASSUME YOU DID IT ON PURPOSE because there is zero reason to believe otherwise. And your refusal to name the developer is just crazy to me because you're protecting a guy who, if he exists, flat out tried to steal tens of thousands of dollars- upwards of hundreds of thousands, or even millions depending on how long the con ran- from players you promised to be honest to.

As you can tell, #3 is my sticking point. I can ultimately forgive the skipped nonces now that they are repaid (if the third developer story checks out) and I can get beyond the increasingly crazy Mateo conspiracy theory. But I can not trust your site, or advise anyone to trust your site, until there is a reason to believe the initial fault of your website was truly some rogue asshole, and not YOU.

I give you credit for reimbursing the skipped nonces, and for coming back to the forum. No one here thought you would do either, including me, so you've done a lot by doing so. But mate, please come clean with us all the way. It's the only way to restore your reputation.

Here's a short version:

You told us to pay people using the escrowed coins. I tried asking a couple of times why you wouldn't be paying yourself, but got no answer from you. I decided that the best thing to do was to assume that you wouldn't be paying, and to just pay everyone with the escrowed 10 BTC at the end of the month.

There was a whole bunch of drama, which you can read on the threads if you care, with some people thinking we should "end the campaign" (as if that's something we could do) and others thinking we should pay at the end of the month. bitcoininformation couldn't stand it any more, was finding it all very stressful, and decided he would pay out everyone for the posts they had made so far. That was some time around the 10th of the month. He paid out something like 4.7 BTC and sent me the rest. I said I would pay out remaining payments at the end of the month.

I made a new thread: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/778953
It follows on from bitcoininformation's thread: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/776227

It lists the people who are still in the campaign with valid signatures. It lists how many posts they had when the first payment (from bitcoininformation) went out, so you can work out how much more they're owed.

https://www.blocktrail.com/tx/8f1de07ddd69207a34f84e87371f63656f065005ca6383039fc782e997275126

 

yup, the sig was still continued even after the tragedy happened

Are you $username clad in a new hide? Have you been finally banned?

Can't believe morons are still playing at this scam site and putting money in to operators pocket, do you expect miracles? or waiting for another "mateo" .Anyone who lose their money again, fully deserve to lose it and shoud not get any sympathy.