I am not 100 % convinced the best case scenario will pan out. I am convinced enough to hold some coins. Even if Monero goes to 0 I am not ending up tp bankcruptcy though because I have other assets as well which I recommend for everybody. Monero, and projects like these, are wild cards and I don't think it is a prudent move to be "all in".
However, I cannot forgive myself if I do not own enough coins to become rich if the best case (or even 2nd best or 3rd best) scenario pans out.
The odds in reaching high price is good enough to hold the coin (I don't think it is smart to hold Monero if the chances for 1000000000 X rise is let's say 1 % or 2 % even though the expected value might be lucrative but the odds are so low that basically you need to find dozens of projects like this to become rich with 1 project).

There are some indications of failure actually (the GUI soon -fiasco), that's not trolling, I am just honest here. Also there is 0 marketing as well which is very bad thing in my opinion (without people being aware of the existence of XMR nobody can buy it). Someone needs to give the face to XMR, make vlogs about it, go to events talking about it (I think the Pony does a little this). Marketing doesn't need to look tidy, just an ordinary guy/girl talking about it in the language to wide audience(s) everybody can understand without being The Pony.
I don't know what are you seeing when you are watching XMR but there is a decent community (even when the price was 0.001), the projects are getting funded in the blink of an eye with decent hourly salaries.


DNM are a good thing as well for Monero but I think Monero could reach high value even without them if the coin is going to be used for store of value. If that's a primary use case, it can reach high value even without GUI in my opinion.

I was bearish because the markets used to be bearish because old ATH of 0.0111 was untouched for so long time.
Currently I am semi bearish/semi bullish (the price is still above the previous trading range).

If you think XMR will reach to high numbers, you consider these cheap coins and lower your average purchasing price (in case you are underwater), if you are unsure, then you do nothing and waite what will happen and if you think "that's it, it is dead" then perhaps the best choice is to sell.
Personally I am willing to buy more and I have set my bids to the points I am willing to risk the amount of money I can afford to lose at that certain point.


Sorry for rambling. 

Thanks for your reply you basically reminded my why I initially bought in so high (I stock averaged so spread out my buys for an average price of ~£7.50 I think) and that was simply because I was infact gambling parrarel to investing and the risk reward ratio was too large to ignore! That being said, I have never set foot in a gambling establishment or placed a bet to date and frankly, this is much more fun (being part of a community)

I think despite the recent trolling of nrg we can all agree he was right about marketing and that does indeed seem to be still being discussed in his absence, therefore I see an apportunity for another FFS bounty that will really benefit the project. I however am a noob with little experience, is there not a more established member of the community that is willing to stick there neck out and make an attempt at raising this marketing fund? Maybe great things will happen. It needs to happen at some point so why not maybe time a marketing fund with the gui ? Just my 2 xmr

Should be a bounce here but I would be surprised if this was a final capitulation especially with bitcoin just itching to move.  And the ZCash hype is just ridiculous, any discerning mind that makes a rudimentary effort to investigate it will quickly see how flawed it is yet here we are, its trading at 0.25 BTC.  WTF is wrong with crypto people.

I think we have to remember that Monero shouldn't be negatively linked to the rise of Bitcoin since it is basically a better "bitcoin" than Bitcoin! And it's purpose is to take over the role of BTC in many of the places where BTC fails due to lack of fungibility, privacy, etc...  So, when the price of BTC goes up against fiat, if we as a whole, have our heads on straight... we should view Monero as increasing in value against fiat as well. And I say that, knowing that we have very few options for directly trading fiat for Monero.

Does that make sense?

I think if the next bitcoin ascent takes place as many people are expecting all alts will take a massive dump regardless of their technical superiority, the better ones, Monero included IMO, will eventually make really nice gains but I think at the onset of the next BTC bubble it will be a bloodbath for alts.

A little? LOL people have lost their fucking mind.  It's not even released yet and its already at 5x the ATH of any other altcoin that I can remember.

Yes and Polo will not help - there is not really a fiat component there, it's a binary choice: hold a rising BTC, or the falling alts?  It's not a choice I could argue against.... 

Except this: When people see the rise and feel it's time to realise profit - oversold Alts will look tasty... And the best alts will leap up.  Fast...

Well, every time the shorters step in the rise is shortly ahead  

So to me that'd mean as your BTC stash is going up, it'd be correct to re-balance some percentage of that gain into more XMR stash (i.e. as the XMR is "dying" it's just 'cheap coinz!')... correct?

That may look in the short term like throwing good money after bad, but IF -- as most believe around here -- there's definitely a role for XMR to play in the future, over and above what BTC alone is capable of, then long-term that'd be the most profitable approach, yes?  Or is that too much 'gambling' and not really 'investing' here? LOL