We could have one or two bull runs before march '18: one mid-end august (the segwit relief) , and another near xmas

In other news

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/07/14/alleged-alphabay-admin-found-dead-bangkok-jail/

Is there blood on the streets yet?

Not "most of those miners aren't signalling yet" but "nobody is signaling and nobody can signal yet" because SegWit2x is not deployed on the Bitcoin network until July 21.

Did we lose?

Meh... srsly I dunno yet: this SHOULD be "bad" already so far (as BTC touched into the $1800's last night, apparently), I suppose.

Newbies who first bought-in to BTC around $2800 are probably freakin' out right now.  Yeah I remember when I had my first beer too, LOL

But overall when I check my total balance portfolio today, all ALTS considered as via btc etc... for me things seem mostly unchanged.

Yeah it's DOWN a little in BTC terms, I guess (maybe something like less than 10%?) but overall it's "all" really only *down* in DOLLAR value, seems to me.

If so, i.e. if true in general and not just "true for me" for some reason?  Then this'd indicate to me it is only the BTC mothership that's dropped, for the moment?

If everything else is still "proportional" then really we're "unchanged"...?

I read someone said somewhere that in order to get a new ATH, HoneyBadger *ALWAYS* has to first re-test the previous ATH as a "LOW".

So that'd mean we need to hit something like $1,150, before resuming the upward track to hit maybe $5,000 sometime before the end of this year?

If the damn scaling debate is settled, one way or another, by end of August I could see that happening, easily.

Just HODL and "Hang On To Yer Butts", gentlemen.  Gonna be a bumpy ride LOL



LOL seems to me that ANY crypto at all being advertised on a freakin' BUS STOP sign, means the overall crypto space is WINNING huge...!!!

...and what ultimately happened to the South Sea Company ?  Hopefully you are picking and choosing only those parts of the comparison that suit.

The fact these pieces of shit who try and scam the naive masses don't promote XMR is a good thing in my books.

when will the carnage end 

Yes, I believe you are correct.

There have been 4 big Crypto adoption price waves over the last 6 years. The bust phase of each was inevitable, but only the last 2 have featured alternatives to BTC to any great extent. The one we are (likely) entering now will unfold in a similar way, with capital slowly fleeing to the safer havens (mainly larger projects), but with all fiat-denominated prices showing declines. It was a very long way down from peak to trough.

Within a few months I would expect to clearly see which are the nonsense projects. Unfortunately, by then virtually all value will have evaporated from them. It is hard to see how there could be more than a handful of winners.