It's not about money. I just can't work on a project knowing that I'm helping the thief to happily dump stolen coins.

That works only in theory i'm afraid.

Nxt did a rollback a few months back and they are still listed in a few big exchanges. Cryptopia was a good solution when we needed it but if we paid to be listed there we can pay to be listed elsewhere. Bleu, Yobit and other exchanges could be good alternatives.

If your problem is a problem of justice noise23 you can always guarantee to pay back any genuine transaction that was cancelled with the rollback. Not sure how much is at stake though. At least that would show your good faith to a potential new exchange.

My feeling about Cryptopia;
-I'm not keen to see an exchange dictate what we should do as a community
-I'm not too confident either; they are new and they have so many coins that i don't know how they can manage the type of risks that made Cryptsy fall...

I'm not sure how escrows work but we could set one up so that we can all contribute to financing the new exchange.

Let's face it; the guys at Cryptopia are right and they are defending a good principle.

However, it is also true that the community and the developer should have the final word on a cryptocurrency's destiny.

Having said that, I will agree with the 1% fee to the developer or I will gladly send a few thousand PHS to him in order to compensate for the stolen coins.

So how do we solve this conundrum?

If we go for the hardfork we can't forget that no coin is viable without a market to be traded.

We don't have enough volume to get listed on one of the big exchanges like Poloniex on Bittrex, right?

As a final note, I would love to stay on Cryptopia. Ever since Cryptsy collapsed I've been trading several coins there with no issues whatsoever. It's definitely not in the same league as Polo or Bittrex but out of the smaller ones, I believe it's better than Yobit or Bleu.

We should also consider C-Cex, I believe the listing there is free.

Whatever it takes to keep this nice coin alive, let's do it!

Makes sense. I didn't realize the NXT rollback didn't happen in the end! That would have been a lot more complex/messier than for PHS given the size of their blockchain and zillion assets/currencies... 

And yes, it's a good sign for Cryptopia; still I believe their business model is very risky.  And at the end of the day I don't feel tied to them.

Given the price of listing at Yobit I think we shouldn't hesitate, whatever we do with Cryptopia. It's safer for all of us to have 2 exchanges rather than just 1.

Wow VladK, you are truly wise with your advice - nrs 1, 2 and 3. Hehe nr 2 is excellent and really funny   Make POS rewards last 90 days only - now that will help peeps start using coin. Lol  I'm sure these points can help this coin greatly if implemented.


post script:@Muzzargh \/ agreed - take the name for instance "philosopherstone" its beautiful in itself...it has to survive - our world need philosopherstones. The symbol that philospherstones stand for is that of Logic isn't it. Our modern world (for the majority of people) only vaguely displays tidbits of logic (as in philosophy type). Look at the definition of logic in google: reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. Let's validify Philosopherstones so the young (others of course too) of today and tomorrow can think and live free.

+ wallet all the time worked nice... would be a shame when phs die :/

@noise23 when a rollback is the best solution for you/phs you should do that, we dont need cryptopia, we can find another exchange.

After some consideration, i think it's better for PHS to just leave everything as is for now...
Going to ask Cryptopia to re-activate PHS market.

Yeah they definitely will be dumped, 107K http://explorer.phstones.com/address/9VGJynR4uc3787QWdGMS9HUD9YMmmDJgoC

Domain is paid till December, will try to keep explorer online too.
Regarding developing i can't say for now, at least not in the near months...

Here is a thought.
We should all drop our Buy orders to 1 sat to punish the thief, until he sells all of the coins he stole.

 

This hacker might be reading this thread. Maybe you can try to place a wallet adres in this topic so he can send your stones back.