Already post all my data about Cloud.Mining.Website SCAM here:

https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/843417.msg12895581#msg12895581

It is self moderated thread so if it will be deleted just let me know - i hold copy.

nah, hashnest are legit, bit-x also, hashnest also have the best roi opportunity, for casual miners this is the best you can have

they are just not very clear about the mining fee

Did you seen information on hashprofit.com site?

Probably it is lie but it looks like is still alive:
(It is in Russian - i use google translator )

08/13/2015
Today, the payment was made, a little earlier than promised. The list includes users who responded to our letter and provided all the necessary data. It paid 291.94 BTC (about 5 million. Rubles), received a payment of 780 people. See report on payment by 08.13.2015.

Unfortunately, the payment received, not all users of the service. Please be patient, at the moment the service administration is developing a plan to phase out full repayment of the debt, taking into account the current difficult situation.

Don't know what to think about this..  Maybe someone seen some confirmation of their actions?

There has been a prolioferation of cloud mining scams recently, Unless you know what you are doing, I would not get into it

LOL, a blackmailer now if you criticize this scam, not just "in the pay of the competition".

Kotwica's ROI is nowhere near "~50%", it is 34% negative, as you are fully aware.
The figures in the other thread make this perfectly clear, after a year he is being paid dust and has an estimated FOUR MORE YEARS before his G/hs earnings pay back his original purchase price, never mind give him a profit.
The fact that his terrible "investment" mistake in your scam has been softened slightly, because he was greedy/naive/optimistic enough to refer someone else to it and is being paid blood money for that, is totally irrelevant. As you know.

Actually, a "cloud miner" that pays more in referral bounty than it does on its investment contract....how much more proof of a scam could there be? This is called "shooting yourself in the foot" GG.
 

Too many shady cloudmining sites has gone, so i would not recomend them either.

The big problem I see with calculator is it does not mention difficulty's change and how big of a effect it will have.   Sure... it looks amazing when you calculate a year without any increase in hashrate.  But that is unrealistic they should add difficulty change to calculator I would suggest.  Anyone investing anywhere on mining make sure to use one like - https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator where diffficulty is being factored in.

Just like this week difficulty will play a bit role it's shaping up to be  - https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty .  A lot of new gear being pumped out.  And it's almost scary on this change.

It all depends the one I linked to is pretty good at giving accurate info, but you have to input data.  Things such as difficulty you cannot know for sure so that is where speculation comes in place.  And some speculation can be off quite a bit.  There is no guarentee of ROI, that is part of mining but also why I like to get hardware myself most of tiime where I own the miner.

As far as https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty it really is not to mislead people.  You just need to learn about bitcoin before using it.  I can see what you mean about being new.  But really if you are new you should read about mining before jumping into it, you have to understand things like difficulty... if not you are not really to point to make good decisions.

I agree if a site uses current difficulty and times it by days .... chances are it's meant to mislead or be used just for this difficulty period. Coinwarz is a good example of one that is not meant to mislead but just does current calculation on mining.  A cloud mining site that uses current mining difficulty and bases a weeks/months/year off of it chances are is trying to mislead. 

LOL
please don't talk about hashprofit again
it's make me forget about my 0.4BTC, i lose it , also i have 50active reff and 200reff >_< 

im very sad if i remember it

now I would never promote cloud mining again

Yep, your links are very useful and this is basic tool for everyone who is thinking about mining BTC.

I talk about dirty trick of CM.W and calculator that is showing nice amounts of btc and mislead people who is looking for place to invest money, because they think that it show their (CM.W) mining results.

Maybe now...