Yes, please share vancefox. Fuck NDA, it's public source code .

Good diversion with the pinned post.

BS!  You don't get to come here and play all innocent.  You and lizard lips both are complicit in the theft Josh perpetrated on GAWs foolish customers.  I hope you both lost money yourselves.  It would serve you right.

I'm sure there are hashtalk members who walked, look at vancefox above. 

It's funny I was fairly active here yesterday, I was one that called out the guy's who were making threats and posting pictures of Josh's family. I understand you may feel that GAW is a scam, but to make personal threats against Josh and even worse his family went well beyond comprehension and I am glad that CCN pointed that out. I am also glad that the article was not just another GAW shrill article. I think you will either get your answers from the BTC conference or Josh will just skirt around the questions.

The Miami conference will be make or break time for Josh and GAW within crypto, if he does not show proof of investment then GAW is dead in the water, I actually would find that a shame as I have met and chatted with some good crypto community members who are not GAW shills and never will be.

I would have to say in fact there are probably only a handful of die hard GAW fans left as has been shown by the amount of long term members no longer posting and resigning as moderators.

I ask one thing and one thing only please stop the stupid threats of violence and the posting of pictures of Josh's family, as much as you might hate GAW and Josh these things are just not right.

It's pretty obvious to me they were pumping the coin publicly and dumping privately, and now they are jumping ship claiming they want no part of the scam they helped pull off and profited from.

I already did in this thread on one of the more important ones... but I'll summarize it:

1) Orion Controllers require a hard fork to get what they're advertised.  Currently the tx fees are destroyed and they're supposed to go to the Orion Controllers and Prime Nodes as an added "payment" for holding x # of coins.  This isn't too big of a red flag in itself but to spend "months" on a coin release and have "professional" devs build your coin only to have something as trivial as transaction fees being destroyed when they're not supposed to be is, in my opinion, weak.

2) The wallet release was so horrid that there are still constant posts on HashTalk and poor souls entering the realm of IRC looking for help.  Some had such a fucked up wallet that their coins were actually locked up in that piece of shit and they couldn't do anything about it without help.  It was very obvious that there was very little, if any, GAW support for their qt wallet release as well as very little "non-zencloud" expertise among the gawlets themselves.  Thousands of coins were, and possibly still are, at the mercy of good-hearted souls to recover.

3) Prime Nodes... 49 prime nodes that have stake rates of 10% (3 wallets), 20% (2 wallets), 100% (10 wallets), and 350% (35 wallets).  Each of the pub keys in those lists are linked to a priv key (not a paycoin address key btw so this was literally built to be anonymous as to which wallet gets what until the blockchain shows through the transaction) that tells the wallet to say it is a prime node.

One thing is that there are 49 prime nodes but 50 keys.  The extra key could be anything from 10-350% but I'm going to assume that it's a 350% key that's the odd man out.  This means that most likely there is an extra priv key for whoever Josh picks (who do you think Josh will pick to possess that key?) to possess it that stakes higher than the rest of the network suckers.

Just an fyi: The normal staking rate for Paycoin (XPY) is 5%.  This means that there will be extreme and unbalanced hyperinflation affecting this coin shortly after the 35 350% prime nodes start dumping/selling/trading their enormous stakes.

4) Revalation noted that there was additional code that I didn't see.  I have looked at the code and verified that the additional line @ L974 gives additional numbers that just, well, hide in plain sight how the interest is actually calculated each coin day.


So above you will see the daily stake rates for all "tiers".  If that doesn't show that there will be unequal inflationary pressure on this coin, then nothing will.


So there are 4 specific reasons why I can not approve of, recommend, or support this coin.

In my opinion, it is not a question of if it will fail... it will fail and it's just a question of when.

I don't have an NDA

Also, I am fairly certain (read as not legal advise please) that an NDA does not prevent an individual from exposing illegal action.  As far as I know an NDA can not be used to protect an illegal act.  FYI (Again, read as not legal advise please but seek it if you need to)

Agreed.  Making threats to someone's family makes this community look like idiots, and while some of us are idiots, let's not do our best to point it out to the rest of the world.

Some of you may still have a dog in this fight, most of us do not.  That said, let's do our best to be on our best behavior.  When this thing (inevitably, in my mind) blows up don't you think the mess will draw all forms of attention to this thread in particular?  Do you want to be that guy that's spewing hate, or would you rather be seen as a moderate voice?  I know that "we're here" for all intents and purposes to keep more people from getting scammed but let's keep it f'n civil, shall we?

I am referring to Scott Fargo.

I don't agree that we really have a dog in this fight.  The amount of ill will being generated IRL by Paycoin is negligible when compared to the effort of companies and entrepreneurs building the BTC core and BTC related services. Paycoin is going to wash up publicly soon, even if the coin itself is shuffled off to penny day traders when it's all over.  In my opinion it's a blip on the radar and not worth much of our attention.

Josh Garza is also worth none of our attention at this point, the momentum here will carry him on the rest of his journey.