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    December 03, 2014, 12:07:36 AM
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    Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on December 02, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
    Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

    Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me Smiley

    See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

    It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

    For example here is an address linked to newly generated coins (this one belongs to AntPool):

    https://blockchain.info/address/1Mp3atombUR6iLLYoLEdN9uPfPscsKBXfi
    https://blockchain.info/tx/f095dfd22c2fe23275e9487ecb7c19eb71403d1359a0c07c0457190ffafbeaeb

    I don't see anything like that near the 1P62 address but I haven't really spent any time on it.

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    December 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
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    To all BTC bagholders - congratulations on the first difficulty decrease in nearly two years.

    Let's mine the crap out of it before PayCoin comes and makes BTC extinct.

     Grin

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    December 03, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
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    Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on December 02, 2014, 11:28:15 PM
    Quote from: MinermanNC on December 02, 2014, 11:04:45 PM
    Quote from: MinermanNC on December 02, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
    No coin not even BTC will be worth anything if there is no user demand for it. BTC has made great strides this last year being excepted by huge e- retailers and more. Plus NCR announced is incorporating software features in to all of it new register systems for BTC transactions, that to me is a big step in that arena. I am still wondering who will be excepting paycoin?? I mean its all hype and speculation to me so far. I guess ya never know, but I just don't see the need for another digital currency, like trying to re invent the wheel or something lol, and I feel its governed and controlled by one person, at least for now, which cant be good. If something happened to Josh today, like his jet plane goes down over the pacific or something, what becomes of paycoin and his fantasy? Who would be in control and carry on the mission? Its huge gamble for a lot of folks in my opinion.

    Just buy BTC and sit back and wait ( 3 months or 6 months) no pun intended Smiley
    Just for the record: I nor anyone that I could find or read, suggested in anyway they wish anything bad physically against Josh. I just read through the last 8 pages or so, and a few are implying that some are wishing ill upon him? I never said that or suggested that either. In my above post I simply was making a point of everything about paycoin is centered on Josh's vision only it seems, and "WHAT IF" something bad were to happen to him like I mentioned, as purely example only, geez! Someone else took out of context what I maybe wrote and turned it into something else perhaps? IDK.

    I used that as an example as for the same reasons the president and vice president or big corporate co-owners don't fly in the same planes, and that is to insure continuity in case a plane went down.... man people can be pinheads in these threads... read my whole post and you will see there is NO malice intent there upon Josh, God bless him I hope he succeeds. But I was implying what if? and who or what would become of paycoin, gaw and the whole shebang? lol and mostly all the people who have spent millions on his fantasy.

    Someone mentioned the elders didn't take their meds lol, I may be getting old and a seasoned miner who started on slush's pool, but I would never ever "wish" anything bad like that on anyone (not that I consider myself an elder, yet)  Grin

    ok, just wanted to be clear to those who were implying some were wishing bad things on him.. not accurate at all. At least not from this guy  Wink

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    Yea that happens a lot on here but I forgive you for your comment. If you wish something bad to happen to him its your feelings/thoughts.

    Just joking HAHA. I understood exactly what you were saying, it seems the highly educated ones took it to left field, hit the goal post and tried to score a home run.

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    Don't let forums get 2 u, its not good.

    Hey thanks man, some rationality in here at last lol  Smiley
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    December 03, 2014, 12:24:35 AM
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    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
    To all BTC bagholders - congratulations on the first difficulty decrease in nearly two years.

    Let's mine the crap out of it before PayCoin comes and makes BTC extinct.

     Grin

    Probably an indication that the average efficiency of the installed base of equipment is bumping up against the low average price of power. It's got to level off at some point.

    But ya, let's mine the heck out of it. I just plugged a Block Erupter back in to celebrate!! Grin
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    December 03, 2014, 12:26:37 AM
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    Quote from: coinGeek on December 03, 2014, 12:24:35 AM
    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
    To all BTC bagholders - congratulations on the first difficulty decrease in nearly two years.

    Let's mine the crap out of it before PayCoin comes and makes BTC extinct.

     Grin

    Probably an indication that the average efficiency of the installed base of equipment is bumping up against the low average price of power. It's got to level off at some point.

    But ya, let's mine the heck out of it. I just plugged a Block Erupter back in to celebrate!! Grin
    i hope you pointed it at zen pool as its the most profitable. if not claim the 100btc reward

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    December 03, 2014, 12:32:54 AM
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    Quote from: T0urist on December 03, 2014, 12:26:37 AM
    Quote from: coinGeek on December 03, 2014, 12:24:35 AM
    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
    To all BTC bagholders - congratulations on the first difficulty decrease in nearly two years.

    Let's mine the crap out of it before PayCoin comes and makes BTC extinct.

     Grin

    Probably an indication that the average efficiency of the installed base of equipment is bumping up against the low average price of power. It's got to level off at some point.

    But ya, let's mine the heck out of it. I just plugged a Block Erupter back in to celebrate!! Grin
    i hope you pointed it at zen pool as its the most profitable. if not claim the 100btc reward

    He should solo mine and then take the 5 minute period prior to finding a block as the timeframe for the bet. I think one of the conditions was "any period".

    Might take a while to hit that block though Wink

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    December 03, 2014, 12:46:31 AM
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    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:07:36 AM
    Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on December 02, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
    Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

    Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me Smiley

    See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

    It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

    For example here is an address linked to newly generated coins (this one belongs to AntPool):

    https://blockchain.info/address/1Mp3atombUR6iLLYoLEdN9uPfPscsKBXfi
    https://blockchain.info/tx/f095dfd22c2fe23275e9487ecb7c19eb71403d1359a0c07c0457190ffafbeaeb

    I don't see anything like that near the 1P62 address but I haven't really spent any time on it.

    Very nice and fast find, when jimmothy and that other guy (forgot his name, sorry) that were trying to trace some addresses the other night see this they will also add some input. A couple of guys working together can figure this out, if any help is needed I am also here, I also clicked about 1000 addresses that night but they beat me to it Tongue. With a little guidance to steer me in the right path.

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    Hey thanks man, some rationality in here at last lol  Smiley

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    I seen some posts yesterday about this Amazon Coin, I guess Paycoin is not part of this, maybe they stole the idea from Josh when he spoke to them? #ˈsärˌkazəm

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1001166401

    https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html
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    December 03, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
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    still the hastakers not had been sold yet ? or this is more hashtakers to sell what plans to primes zens  hashlets ?

    Stop hit one by one if you wanna fight go watch tv and relax chill out ,then , return here to read only ,hell we are talking about huge money  in a project that may sucess .

    Suchmoon last topic were with 90 pages this one just get hottest then the other.too many promises of improvements made this time  Shocked

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    December 03, 2014, 01:05:23 AM
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    Quote from: knowhow on December 03, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
    still the hastakers not had been sold yet ? or this is more hashtakers to sell what plans to primes zens  hashlets ?

    Stop hit one by one if you wanna fight go watch tv and relax chill out ,then , return here to read only ,hell we are talking about huge money  in a project that may sucess .

    Suchmoon last topic were with 90 pages this one just get hottest then the other.too many promises of improvements made this time  Shocked

    This is common practice
    Kebabman talked about 9/11 hashlets, suchmoon posted a link and on the bottom we have CEO_HOMER

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    @RV_1969 This is just like OneMiner, they generally sell hundreds while only claiming "50 left".
    you again..lol....yes, there was a bug that allowed more to be sold, we are fixing now and returning the Hashlets


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    December 03, 2014, 01:33:26 AM
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    Quote from: kebabman on December 02, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
    Quote from: suchmoon on December 02, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
    Quote from: kebabman on December 02, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
    No one gives a shit about GAW using 9/11 to sell hashlets and then not actually bothering to make the donation to charity? Seems pretty poor form to me. Undecided

    I do vaguely remember them being forced to make that promise after a bit of a shitstorm on the forums. So you're saying it never happened?

    Anyone brave enough to dig up some old thread on HT and follow up?


    It never happened, I asked Amber at least 3 times and she said they would announce how much was raised (they sold ~1000 * $20.95 Remember Hashlets based on a count on Hashtalk despite saying they would only sell 500) and confirm which charity the donation was made to, but they didn't do it it was just forgotten about.

    Here Josh said 100% of sales money would go to chairty: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets/272

    notice requests for confirmation of donation not answered, and no mention on the charitys donor page.

    Confirmation that Volder bought 100 (and then sold them at a huge profit later, real nice way to remember 9/11!)

    https://hashtalk.org/topic/5743/first-remember-hashlet

    Confirmation that there was not a limit of 500: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5710/rememberhashlets

    Count here, at least 1000 were sold: https://hashtalk.org/topic/6413/how-many-remember-hashlets-do-you-own-d/

    Amber's post at: https://hashtalk.org/topic/6413/how-many-remember-hashlets-do-you-own-d/155

    So where did that ~$20k go?


    Just bumping this, added links so people can see what was said, 500, then not limited, no recorded donation to the named charity. At the very least it's not a good way to treat people who thought they were donating to a cause.

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    December 03, 2014, 01:59:19 AM
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    Quote from: knowhow on December 03, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
    still the hastakers not had been sold yet ? or this is more hashtakers to sell what plans to primes zens  hashlets ?

    Stop hit one by one if you wanna fight go watch tv and relax chill out ,then , return here to read only ,hell we are talking about huge money  in a project that may sucess .

    Suchmoon last topic were with 90 pages this one just get hottest then the other.too many promises of improvements made this time  Shocked

    thats because its round 2 of the ICO (initial con offering). It only heats up from here.

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    I seen some posts yesterday about this Amazon Coin, I guess Paycoin is not part of this, maybe they stole the idea from Josh when he spoke to them? #ˈsärˌkazəm

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1001166401

    https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html

    amazoncoin is only the codename. due to nda they cant release that its actually paycoin. They would of created it themselves but the code was beyond the powers of developers. Josh reached out as the peoples savior with this marvel of innovation. It all starts now!

    He named amazon as a big partner then deleted those posts but its only a matter of time before amazon verifies. maybe a wsj blog will review an email and confirm for us. The proper wsj would be nice but i guess a blog still gives the illusion the wsj actually said it.

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    December 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
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    Quote from: T0urist on December 03, 2014, 01:59:19 AM
    Quote from: knowhow on December 03, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
    still the hastakers not had been sold yet ? or this is more hashtakers to sell what plans to primes zens  hashlets ?

    Stop hit one by one if you wanna fight go watch tv and relax chill out ,then , return here to read only ,hell we are talking about huge money  in a project that may sucess .

    Suchmoon last topic were with 90 pages this one just get hottest then the other.too many promises of improvements made this time  Shocked

    thats because its round 2 of the ICO (initial con offering). It only heats up from here.

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    I seen some posts yesterday about this Amazon Coin, I guess Paycoin is not part of this, maybe they stole the idea from Josh when he spoke to them? #ˈsärˌkazəm

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1001166401

    https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html

    amazoncoin is only the codename. due to nda they cant release that its actually paycoin. They would of created it themselves but the code was beyond the powers of developers. Josh reached out as the peoples savior with this marvel of innovation. It all starts now!

    Thanks for the laugh Smiley I mean information Tongue
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    December 03, 2014, 02:07:14 AM
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    Maybe we've had it all wrong the entire time.

    Maybe Josh = satoshi

    It explains the high end tech they have coming and devs unable to comprehend. Satoshi was mysterious and Joshs operations are too.

    Think about it....

    Dear gawd why did i have doubt

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    December 03, 2014, 02:08:15 AM
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    Quote from: keshuker on December 02, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
    I made a new account to hashtalk and posted:

    "I just wanted to ask around, that when you get shadowbanned for normal conversation (although I was not hyping GAW either), are you supposed to register a new account, wait x days or just stay the f**k away from GAW and Paycoin in the future?

    If not the 3:rd option, do I need to hype GAW in every post not to be banned?

    Thanks"

    Here is the result, in 2 minutes 2 mods replied, shut down the thread and banned my account

    https://hashtalk.org/topic/20983/censorship-is-real-on-hashtalk/3

    Welcome to the club.. Whats the sense of asking questions that make sense to someone who doesn't make sense? The whole Paycoin AKA Project Prime(No primes left in it now) will be a debacle and the folks who asked the legit questions will be banned and looking at this from the outside saying we tried to warn you GAW Skinheads but you didn't listen!!

    Look at this from a 10,000 ft level . No Devs, No proof of any kind anyone has invested in this BS, no Wallet,  no blockchain and a whitepaper that you can use to wipe your ass with because it's meaningless now.

    I'm In!! I Have some money to throw at this!!  Huh

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    December 03, 2014, 02:20:09 AM
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    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:07:36 AM
    Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on December 02, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
    Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

    Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me Smiley

    See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

    It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

    Here's my original post on that address: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/857670.msg9610951#msg9610951

    I don't think it's an exchange because 99% of the payments being sent are below 0.001 btc.

    Many payments sent to 1P6 can be traced directly back to 1P6 but some just lead to addresses with a bunch of unintelligible inputs. I'm not sure if they are using a mixer but it does seem deliberately confusing. Still I've never found a single payment that came from newly generated coins.

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    December 03, 2014, 02:25:53 AM
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    Quote from: welchy8764 on December 03, 2014, 02:08:15 AM
    Quote from: keshuker on December 02, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
    I made a new account to hashtalk and posted:

    "I just wanted to ask around, that when you get shadowbanned for normal conversation (although I was not hyping GAW either), are you supposed to register a new account, wait x days or just stay the f**k away from GAW and Paycoin in the future?

    If not the 3:rd option, do I need to hype GAW in every post not to be banned?

    Thanks"

    Here is the result, in 2 minutes 2 mods replied, shut down the thread and banned my account

    https://hashtalk.org/topic/20983/censorship-is-real-on-hashtalk/3

    Welcome to the club.. Whats the sense of asking questions that make sense to someone who doesn't make sense? The whole Paycoin AKA Project Prime(No primes left in it now) will be debacle and the folks who asked the legit questions will be banned and looking at this from the outside saying we tried to warn you GAW Skinheads but you didn't listen!!

    Look at this from a 10,000 ft level . No Devs, No proof of any kind anyone has invested in this BS, No Wallet,  no blockchain and a whitepaper that you can use to wipe your ass with because it's meaningless now.

    I'm In!! I Have some money to throw at this!!  Huh

    Soon (tm) you will either look down at everyone like a prophet or will eat your words Smiley

    https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/539626313456549888

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    December 03, 2014, 02:34:45 AM
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    Quote from: T0urist on December 03, 2014, 02:07:14 AM
    Maybe we've had it all wrong the entire time.

    Maybe Josh = satoshi

    It explains the high end tech they have coming and devs unable to comprehend. Satoshi was mysterious and Joshs operations are too.

    Think about it....

    Dear gawd why did i have doubt

    Hey! I said it first in the last thread. LOL.

    Who would be wise enough to accumulate enough wealth to invest so much in little ole GAW? Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto himself. That’s who Josh’s huge silent partner is. No wait. Even better yet, Josh is Satoshi. He has used Satoshi Gawmoto. Satoshi did say he moved on. He must have meant he was working on Hashcoin. All hail Josh Gawrzatoshi.

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    December 03, 2014, 02:39:18 AM
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    Quote from: jimmothy on December 03, 2014, 02:20:09 AM
    Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2014, 12:07:36 AM
    Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on December 02, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
    Thanks for the explanation, was wondering what the 2 addresses paying to 1 address were for. I was looking at other addresses that signed up on the same day and tried to follow payments to their addresses 1 month later (give or take a couple of days), didn't find much of the same payment addresses, maybe some didn't complete the sig. Will look more into this when I have some time to play (not that I will find anything but hope to learn more about how blockchain/payments work).

    Thanks again for the lesson, it was a valuable one for me Smiley

    See my edit, I think I found the link to the 1P62 address. Not sure if that proves anything though. Do we now if that's really GAW's address and not e.g. a hot wallet at some exchange?

    It might be interesting to try to cross link it to ZenCloud deposits and withdrawals, and also see if any anonymous pools (e.g. Eligius, NiceHash, CleverMining) are linked to it. Or to any newly generated coins.

    Here's my original post on that address: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/857670.msg9610951#msg9610951

    I don't think it's an exchange because 99% of the payments being sent are below 0.001 btc.

    Many payments sent to 1P6 can be traced directly back to 1P6 but some just lead to addresses with a bunch of unintelligible inputs. I'm not sure if they are using a mixer but it does seem deliberately confusing. Still I've never found a single payment that came from newly generated coins.

    Good, thank you. So it seems reasonable to assume that 1P62 is their main hot wallet, and it had a ~28k turnover in 2 months, which would make that part of WSJ validation correct.

    I tracked a couple of my old withdrawals and they originated from 1P62 as well, about 10-20 hops apart.

    Not sure how to prove or disprove the mining part though. They could say their coins have to go through a mixer to obfuscate "business secrets" therefore newly generated coins won't be directly linked. Perhaps something could be done tracking deposits, but I'm not about to try that since my withdrawals are not working.

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    December 03, 2014, 02:39:46 AM
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    This just in:


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    I feel like a lot of the new trolls are just over the line creepy.

    They post pictures of me, copy every twitter comment I make, and talk about me more then a school girl with a crush......very much stalker status....

    Anyone else noticing this? :grinning:

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    December 03, 2014, 02:44:40 AM
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    Someone here said people on HT were referring to tankjnr as Craig(as in the big time investor). According to his Twitter acct he is a Craig.

    https://twitter.com/tankjnr
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