Apperently paycoin has new wallet 0.20?
I just send paycoin to crypsy with 0.10
Still 0 confirms, what will happen to this transaction?

edit: i have the .20 now and it shows 23 confirms.
maybe crypsy is on the old wallet to?

I just sold my last 20 XPY on Cryptsy an hour ago with absolutely no problem.

So it looks like bidding etc is not yet implemented. Initial Prime controllers are hardcoded. Which is fine I guess for the first round, but it looks like another hard fork will be needed in a few weeks.

Still not sure how one hosts an Orion controller and/or makes money off fees, gotta go read some more.

Still not a bad time to sell guys. There was a decent pump when the lemmings got brainwashed to thinking overstock accepted Paycoin So while it's not the best time to dump, as somebody already shelled out 700 BTC worth, it's still very good. Does the volume on cryptsy relate to how much BTC in trading a coin does, or the coin itself? If so, that's such low volume. Expect a shit storm when GAW is willing to buyback their coins. 176 BTC sell order at .035 LOL. Guys! Omfg double your money on 176 Bitcoins. I know somebody wants to :p

Deleted my post. Nobody can know my master plan. Mwuaha....mwuahahaha. MWUAHAHAHAHAHA

Want to make a fortune on paycoin? Change those hardcoded addresses to your own servers and then get the new wallet distributed to as many paycoin users as possible.  Then enjoy the profit cause you now own all the primes not gaw in respect to these wallets.

Another way to do it might be to write a program that just patches out those existing addresses in the original wallet app to the addresses you want. A little binary editor. And just need to create an app the cultists would want to run on their computers and bam.

Firstly i appreciate the relaxed reply. Some believe that investment is betting, risk - i think when you have a comprehension of the industry that can make you more insightful but possibly less objective decisions. I think if people here can lay out a comprehensive reason why its bad or dangerous. I read this thread for days - not exhaustively - but it hasn't been a pleasure to have to get through the disrespect and emotion to valid points.

I don't believe it has to be transparent, its more a track-record. I generally never invest in anything out of overwhelming mistrust - but i see GAW as a struggling business trying to form a vision albeit very often changing.
I think the confidence of the community is where i invest, the very thing people call out as "gawsters are fools" is also a potential boon. I played a lot of starcraft and watched the community there reject bad-manner gamers and enjoy a much more pleasant experience. To me their cloudmining thing is like a video-game industry thing - those can be billion dollar growth. There is plenty of room for it to go well or poorly but they are clearly working hard to get through very rushed changes and make it work. I am satisfied. Today its even more bright - but for me its more just something to be in and watch. If people over here want to warn and be a public service they need to really make more logical sense.

Ao you just broke down what i said and tried to reverse it with opinion. I don't think you made any strides forward proving anything i said was wrong. I might be a bit vague but i think i am clearer than most people over here.
I think GAW won't necessarily create millionaires because profits will be diminished the more people jump on any bandwagon. Crypto investments mean choosing something high risk, and seeing if it pans out. They are all high risk.

Only in Paybase, and since Paybase doesn't exist yet we don't have the floor. Paybase should launch Monday, however there are going to be limits and delays due to KYC verifications, so it remains to be seen if there is indeed a "floor" and how exactly it works.

I have another possible thought as well. GAW only needs a buffer to mitigate it... its actually quite clever and i'm only just thinking about it now not sure how i missed it earlier. Prior rounds with hashstakers etc have been crowdfunding... promise the earth get a alot of cash and bitcoin this becomes a buffer.

Provide a high return floor at paybase to force rising values at exchanges to match... after all why would YOU sell for $11 at cryptsy when you can get what $20 at paybase? Still with me? Ok now remember those wallets with varying amounts? The 1,750,000 or 2,000,000 constant values? Get those wallets from the rich list and monitor them closely. Its going to matter squat now because after reading this josh will split them further to hide it and mix it around in smaller addresses but its worth posting for people to be aware.

Josh will sell those internal 12 million paycoins at cryptsy to everyday seller accounts to recoup btc that he can then use in paybase to pay people cashing out. It'll now be a slow bleed with him hoping it'll stabilize over time. If it stabilizes before 12 million paycoins (@$20 each) dries up then he makes out like a bandit... if but only 1 million survives thats still $20 million dollars. Continued profits are ensured if they own controllers generating new free coins... with the source hidden they could likely just grant themselves coins.

The KYC compliance etc is a way for him to hide behind whats happening.. Josh just only needs to keep customers happy. Failure and hurt to any of them raises complaints and internal investigations crush him. Bannings etc are a way of controlling this at present as nobody i believe has lost major $$$.

At this point it'll be a slow 3 month bleed out or investigation that exposes this and thats why Josh is hating scott... scott called his bluff earlier as did coinfire. People weren't meant to investigate GAW at the mining stage it was always part of the plan to move to staking to remove the ponzi evident aspect. Hence why the videos sucked ass etc.

The initial rounders will make cash and become the voice to call out the trolls. Its the slow bleed 3 month people that buy at $20 that won't get anything back that are the true victims.

IN SHORT
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Watch those investor wallet addresses and where the coins go.... i'm willing to bet they match exchange transfer and sell amounts on cryptsy etc. This is why investors were never named. They are GAW coins, subsidiary companies etc.

I hear you about QA, testing ... thats kind of dropped away over the last decade.
Coding auto-shutoff is just another un-necessary feature, exactly the kind of thing you don't want to make step by step iterations work. However, for a trading platform to fuck up this bigtime, thats pretty business ending kind of stuff.