I've reviewed this incident and it appears to be less a case of a scam attempt and more a case of sneaky sales tactics. When I say "sneaky" I mean something along the lines of a retail store setting unusually high prices for items, then bringing them back in line with the competition by advertising them as "40% off" or something. This isn't a 1-to-1 analogy, mind you. I'm just trying to establish where this one would rate on a scamminess scale. Just MHO anyway.
Hello Tomato and thanks for the review.
Let me explain you how the steam trades going so you will get my idea.
First,i'm not doing any Bump price to adverst it as "40% off"
I explain how the skins are calculated,and peoples like "master-p"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89329 can confirm what i'm saying is not a lie.
By default,peoples trying to cashout their skins at -20% of their value.
Secondly,the key prices on steam market goes for 2.49$.
Re-sellers selling them at 1.9-2$
And the guys who want to cash out,sell them from 1.6 to 1.8.
When u sell things,your skins got calculated at lower value (they calculate the skin price at keys,and the keys at 1.6-1.9)
When u buy things with keys,the sellers calculate the keys at 2.5$ (steam market value)
That's how it was always. And everyone using csgolounge (the most famous website for csgo skins exchange) can confirm this.
So lets go straight to the loan.
The person who may want to loan me,is taking high risk loan.
I'm not saying that the loan is not going to be paid back,but i do confirm its high risk,because i may not be able to turn back the loan.
That's why the profit is there for the lender.
By default,the lender taking -20% off by buying a huge amount of skins for 10-15btc loan.
Secondly,there comes the another 10% which i'm paying above.
That's total of 30% bonus for the lender who will "risk" his bitcoins.
And i'm not calculating my skin prices by keys at 2-2.5$.
I do it at 1.7-1.9 (which is also 10-60 cents discount by default)
By one or another way,the lender cannot end "scammed" "lied" or without profit.
In the worst case,the lender is taking 30% of what he invest.
If i'm not allowed to do that,its okay,i will remove the loan request.
Also i'm not sure how the guys who gives the loans,cannot think and take whatever deal they want,no matter is high or low risk.
I know you have seen many scammers here,and i'm also happy you don't tolerate them!
But that attitude,wihout asking the questions you care about before abusing the system,makes me think there is problem with that trust system.
I have no interest to harm,lie,scam or do anything wrong.
I requested escrow + % above the requested loan.
If that guy "Vod" was so kind about the community and trying to protect it or help,he was able to send me a simple message like "Dude,you are not allowed to do that because of that that and that".
I have no problem to cancel the loan request if that kind of "deals" are not allowed.
As you guys don't know anything about csgo skins trading/prices,same i don't know anything about how the loans going.
So excuse me if i did anything wrong. And don't be dicks,if u are trying to help the bitcoin community and the users here,you better change the attitude and try to help me,and not attack me...
And yeah,i do threat "Vod" because he leaved me negative feedback without a responsable reason.
All i see is his ignorant attitude and the negative feedback without a reason.(without a reason for me)
If this is misunderstanding,Vod can remove my negative feedback.
I will do the same and also will remove my loan request.
Which is not changing the fact i'm really looking forward to do this,and if someone of you are willing to show me the path,i will appreciate it.
...right kodoff ... ive read this whole afair seems to me like you arent really planning to repay the loan . let me make this perfectly clear you are asking for a loan . which technicaly means you are soposed to return the money. but you plan to bail out with the btc and never repay the loan.
what i believe you are trying to do is ask for a loan but actualy pawn those bloody cs skins. as in never repay the loan . what you dont understand , besides the fact that you are cheating your lender by asking for a loan when you true intent is to pawn a item , is that pawned items dont go shop price. they dont even go HALF PRICE. so if you think you want to pawn something with shop price ... heres where you cheat your lender again . or you think of him as being very stupid.
also threatening vod with paying people to atack his reputation and lower it ... that shows what kind of a scumbag you are ... again.
I'm planning to pay the loan,but the chance of not paying it is highter.
That's why i leave up to 30% profit to the lender.
Lenders do have their own brain to say: That's my deal,or that's not my deal.
And please,don't explain me how shops not going half price or etc,because i managed to cashout nearly 25,000$ via csgo skins so far.
You are not even close to anything with csgo to teach me about it.
Thanks for calling me scumbag,wish you cancer to
