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    June 19, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
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    Quote from: MatthewLM on June 19, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
    I just did it. So the results will be made public?

    Yes. As soon as the results slow down (kind of like with popcorn popping), or my fund runs out (whichever comes first), I'll get to work compiling the results and putting them up, along with a raw version for anyone that wants to more in-depth analysis.
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    June 19, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
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    It's good you ask the participants to forward the link, but have you advertized on other forums? Perhaps bitcoincharts or other high-traffic sites could donate a banner space for a few days. This is for the common good anyway.
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    June 19, 2012, 08:02:48 PM
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    Quote from: niko on June 19, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
    It's good you ask the participants to forward the link, but have you advertized on other forums?

    I have posted a link on the Bitcoin subreddit (I have a semi-active account there), but not anywhere else. Though I'd like more people to take it, I'd rather not spam on sites that I don't actually participate on.
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    June 19, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
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    Quote from: unfinishe on June 19, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
    Quote from: terrytibbs on June 19, 2012, 06:58:16 PM
    Quote from: unfinishe on June 19, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
    Yes, I'm only saving a hashed value of the e-mail addresses. (A repeatedly hashed value to be more precise. You can never be too paranoid. Cheesy)
    How is this more secure?

    Well, I'm not an security expert or anything, but as far as I know, there's no computationally easy way to reverse a hash function (let alone several times), so if anybody were to (somehow) get into my database, they wouldn't suddenly have a handy list of plain e-mail addresses they could use to spam with.

    i think he meant 'how is more secure to hash repeatedly'? and the answer would be in the time it takes to brute force it.  eg. 1 hash vs 100,000.

    by the way, i didn't do the survey because of google... just letting you know, i'd happily do one without such a restriction.

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    June 19, 2012, 08:30:08 PM
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    It's also less reversible because the number of preimages of f^n is greater than or equal to the number of preimages of f only applied once. In other words, hash functions applied multiple times ultimately reach a fixpoint containing a bijection between a subset of the entire output domain. There is a trade-off however: collision is easier with f^(large_number), but reversing is harder. In realistically large modern hash functions, neither is easy... and we have no idea how to test whether a given hash value is on the fixpoint or not. Even finding a relatively small cycle would be significant.

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    June 19, 2012, 08:31:36 PM
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    Quote from: payb.tc on June 19, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
    by the way, i didn't do the survey because of google... just letting you know, i'd happily do one without such a restriction.

    If I knew a better way to deter spam, I would use it instead.  Sad

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    June 20, 2012, 11:08:51 AM
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    I took it and shared it
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    June 20, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
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    So, a lot of people have taken it so far, but I've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the Reddit post, not liking the authentication procedure. I don't want to exclude people from the survey, so I'm thinking about modifying the app so you can access the survey with a one-time token from me.

    Once I do this, then I suppose you can PM me and, as long as you're not a new account, I'll give you a token (should I still offer the Bitcents, though?) Does this sound like a reasonable solution?
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    June 20, 2012, 04:07:02 PM
    Last edit: June 20, 2012, 04:45:45 PM by unfinishe
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    Ok, so I've implemented the token idea. If you want to take the survey, but haven't because you didn't want to authenticate through Google, just PM me and I'll send you a link. I really do want as many people as possible to be able to take it.

    (P.S. 150 responses!)
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    June 20, 2012, 07:55:11 PM
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    pm me a token please but be aware that I will not accurately answer questions about my balance and similar questions that i wouldn't answer publicly here neither.
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    June 20, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
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    That said, maybe you should take your survey on the next bitcoin conference where people know it is anonymous.
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    June 21, 2012, 02:48:21 AM
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    Quote from: giszmo on June 20, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
    That said, maybe you should take your survey on the next bitcoin conference where people know it is anonymous.

    That would actually be rather interesting, but someone else would have to run it because I'm just too darn broke to travel to a conference any time soon.  Undecided

    (Update: 175 responses now. I was hoping for about 200, so I'm pretty happy, especially since this was honestly a pretty amateurish operation. If there aren't many more responses by tomorrow, I'll call it good and release the results!)
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    June 21, 2012, 10:26:09 AM
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    I forgot to mention one thing on the survey that I really think is important. Bitcoin obviates false authority. That is the major reason that I am involved with and learning about bitcoin. Please make a point to put that in the database somewhere.
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    June 21, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
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    Alright, so I've closed the survey now. Expect the results soon!
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