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    Peter Todd (OP)
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    July 22, 2012, 12:53:09 AM
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    Because he is short the market. Suppose you had 2.5 million USD and a debt denominated in Zimbabwean dollars at an interest rate of 7% a week that initially was valued at 2.5 million USD. Would you close out the position. No. You let the position ride and then pick up 500 trillion Zimbabwean dollars for say 50 USD on Ebay and use it to pay the principle and interest on your Zimbabwean dollar debt. The profit is the difference between what you sold your Zimbabwean dollars short initially 2.5 million USD and what you paid to buy back your position 50 USD.


    Er...  Let's say that this person was anonymous and could not be reached by any court.  Would his stronger incentive be to (1) hold down the value of the Zimbabwean dollar futility until he becomes insolvent, or (2) walk away with the money, in whatever currency he prefers?

    This is not a hard question.  You appear to be making the fundamental mistake of believing it's not a scam.

    Please think for a second about how senseless this is.  In your view, you think he needs to get more income from whatever his "investment" is, turn it into bitcoins, and pay the "investors."  So yes, in that situation he would want the exchange rate to be low.  But if he had a stack of coins to turn into dollars, doesn't that mean that he didn't actually put them into his "investment" until now?  I mean, you're supposedly loaning him money for some great investment deal--doesn't that mean he needs to actually invest the bitcoins?  If he's got thousands of coins sitting around to manipulate the prices AND more income from his investment, why does he need to pay you guys anything?  He would be self-financing at that point.

    The only conclusion is that the investment is mythological.

    Lets say this anonymous person, realizes that me might not be as anonymous as he thinks he is... In that scenario, why not hedge your bets by paying back the people who bought into your scam, using a clever method that still lets you walk away with a pile of valuable fiat.

    Anyway, even if he is anonymous now, he's taking a risk of getting de-anonyimized as he tries to cash out. Estimates are there are something like a quarter of a million BTC involved in the scam; dumping all that isn't going to be easy.

    Of course, note how first half of this process, converting the BTC to fiat, could also be the first step of just taking the money and running, assuming he's confident that he can get away with withdrawing the fiat from the exchanges without any legal trouble.

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