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    • nightengale
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    July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
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    Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

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    July 11, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
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    Quote from: nightengale on July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
    Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

    Power for this toy is expensive.. So price is not that bad. You also get cooling in that price. Longer lifetime of the unit than hosting it in the closet..

    If you buy more than 2-3 of jupiters, using home solution might not be good enough.
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    July 11, 2013, 02:14:55 PM
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    Call me a gambler but I feel more confident about these guys than I ever did about BFL. I'm still waiting on my equipment; I will never do business with them again based solely on the poor customer relationship skills they have demonstrated. Here's hoping for an October delivery from Sweden!

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    July 11, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
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    Quote from: nightengale on July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
    Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

    If they payment is request in USD, Then just think about how you have so many more possibilities of "refunding" your money.
    IE you payed with CC/Paypal USD=Refundable
    If you payed with the Glorious Bitcoin, then you cant Refund on your own, You need them to do it for you, and they will have to to a conversion rate and hand you back equivalent USD.
    So why not just stay on USD?
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    July 11, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
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    Is there anything said by KNC how they will divide the units once ready between paying customers and the ones they will use for mining themselves?
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    July 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
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    Quote from: nightengale on July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
    Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

    In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

    0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

    So from my point of view pricing is ok
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    July 11, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
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    what you think ?

    it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?



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    July 11, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
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    Quote from: de_ixie on July 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
    In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

    0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

    So from my point of view pricing is ok

    That makes more sense. Energy peaks at .12$ per 1000W/h (I think) where I am. All I know is that I'm running 4x750 PSUs for a LTC mining rig and that's about $250 a month. Have to re-evaluate closer to the ship date depending on where difficulty and BTC/USD are, and make a decision from there.

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    July 11, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
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    Quote from: zyyz on July 11, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
    what you think ?

    it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?





    ... and more important... will you loose you current order spot because you technically pay later?
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    July 11, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
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    Quote from: zyyz on July 11, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
    what you think ?

    it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?
    You mean Mercury to Jupiter? According to the drawings on their website, it should.

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    July 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
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    What do you mean with "technically pay later"?

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    July 11, 2013, 02:43:34 PM
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    Quote from: robix on July 11, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
    Quote from: zyyz on July 11, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
    what you think ?

    it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?
    You mean Mercury to Jupiter? According to the drawings on their website, it should.


    the upgrad path will be : mecur to saturn saturn to jupiter.

    maybe  they build the pcb with no posibility to upgrade 3 modules ?

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    July 11, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
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    Would not make sense to make different PCBs.

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    July 11, 2013, 02:46:46 PM
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    Quote from: nightengale on July 11, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
    Quote from: de_ixie on July 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
    In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

    0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

    So from my point of view pricing is ok

    That makes more sense. Energy peaks at .12$ per 1000W/h (I think) where I am. All I know is that I'm running 4x750 PSUs for a LTC mining rig and that's about $250 a month. Have to re-evaluate closer to the ship date depending on where difficulty and BTC/USD are, and make a decision from there.

    last year the kwh was around 20€ cent.

    http://www.stepmap.de/karte/strompreise-europa-1160873

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    July 11, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
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    Quote from: robix on July 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
    What do you mean with "technically pay later"?

    I mean:

    -> e.g. you ordered and payed for a Saturn on 20th June
    -> Now you upgrade to Jupiter lets say on 10th August - you also do your "upgrade" payment on 10th August

    What is the "paying" date for your order? 20th June oder 10th August? As far as I understood this will have big impact on delivery date of your machine due KnC said "First paid, first serve".
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    July 11, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
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    As I see, their concept is fully upgradable. Same case, same PCB, just one, two or four "Asic units".

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    July 11, 2013, 02:49:07 PM
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    Quote from: de_ixie on July 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
    Quote from: nightengale on July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
    Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

    In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

    0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

    So from my point of view pricing is ok

    I know for a fact they were looking at green energy options as I was bugging them about it from the start as a means to improve Bitcoin's image with respect to energy wastage.

    You can guarantee your unit will be looked after, serviced in case of failure promptly and kept cool with hosting. Northern Sweden ain't warm at any point of the year...
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    July 11, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
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    Quote from: de_ixie on July 11, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
    Quote from: robix on July 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
    What do you mean with "technically pay later"?

    I mean:

    -> e.g. you ordered and payed for a Saturn on 20th June
    -> Now you upgrade to Jupiter lets say on 10th August - you also do your "upgrade" payment on 10th August

    What is the "paying" date for your order? 20th June oder 10th August? As far as I understood this will have big impact on delivery date of your machine due KnC said "First paid, first serve".

    you are over complicating things. your original pay date will stick.

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    July 11, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
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    Quote from: robix on July 11, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
    As I see, their concept is fully upgradable. Same case, same PCB, just one, two or four "Asic units".

    I presume you could upgrade one unit at a time, say to three units from two if you wanted...
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    July 11, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
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    Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 11, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
    Quote from: robix on July 11, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
    As I see, their concept is fully upgradable. Same case, same PCB, just one, two or four "Asic units".

    I presume you could upgrade one unit at a time, say to three units from two if you wanted...

    so we could make our own "neptune" units. lol
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