No, this topic reveals interesting technical aspects which I never knew.
Without doubt lauda has a lot of experience and revealed many scams so far and I like to hear all opinions.
I learned much from this thread, thanks to all.

Most bounties are just ways to pay people less than minimum wage (or nothing at all) to do some very valuable work for you. Almost every ICO is currently doing bounties in some form. I mean people are literally getting in flame wars over who gets to translate to Portuguese for 1000 of the latest bigscamcoin.

There is no risk/reward if you don't buy onions at exchange.
You can get them in signature campaign for posting 10 posts/week, so this would better be called  work/reward.

Plenty of people are convinced that ETH is a scam. A lot of experts in this field don't even want to get near it due to its centralization. If you want to keep your head in the ground, then so be it.

In other words: DeepOnion is falsely marketing itself, and I am right. Someone understands it.

They were abused long before they were discovered, and post discovery.

Which are present.

Exactly. When you out this shitcoin, they come swarming like an army.

Technically yes. I am a pedant when it comes to how I speak, partly because I've been around long enough to know that no matter how you say something, someone will misinterpret you, so being clear is important. Not everyone agrees, especially on the internet. I'm willing to ignore a certain amount of imprecise wording from people online, you can't correct everyone and they seldom thank you for it. It could also be argued that "100% anonymous" is an example of marketing speak, another way to say unclear jibberish (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_jargon ). When was the last time your eyes didn't glaze over when a product description says something like "quantum dot technology" or "4x performance". It doesn't make it right, it's just the norm of advertising, so unless it's rife or particularly egregious, it's probably not worth fixating on.

Yes, but every piece of software has bugs, using that as an argument is not very strong unless the bugs are found but never patched. If the software is open source, and the community is active enough that there is a reasonable expectation that due diligence has been performed, that's the best we can hope for (that heartbleed bug though ).

Yes, I was giving a more compelling argument than "bugs in software". A lot of the traffic analysis that can be done comes from controlling exit nodes, which is why I went on to outline the best way I think a crypto could try to use Tor for maximal anonymity. Yes there have been (probably still are) traffic analysis attacks on hidden services, but it's still the most secure way to use Tor in all likelihood. I think for most people, a properly implemented Tor crypto is enough to consider yourself more secure than someone can be bothered with, but if you're a real multi-million dollar drug money launderer, probably taking some extra precautions would be wise

now this coin is scam or not?

Marketing is marketing, it is all language that does not usually treat clarity, reality or consumers with the utmost respect. If you'd prefer, I could say something like "everyone exaggerates on their CV". I don't agree with it.

If I can use an obvious statement against your point, what does it say about your point?

There definitely is. Monero anonymises transactions on the blockchain, but it doesn't hide the fact that your ip is interacting with it. There is the option of using Monero over Tor, which I'd recommend if you're that into using Monero for privacy (https://github.com/monero-project/monero#using-tor ).

It is the same thing. I'm not comparing the entities, I'm comparing the way they speak. Pretend I didn't say "quantum dot", it was just an example of bullshit marketing speak.

I took your point to be that Tor isn't secure because it has had bugs exploited in the past. Unless you plan on not using software, the threat of bugs being exploited is ubiquitous. The imprecise wording of "100%" I dealt with elsewhere.

I haven't argued for or against DeepOnion as yet (I've just been answering select points I disagreed with, like you mentioning bugs in OpenSSL or the shills using similarly flawed logic). I don't give a toss about the politics beyond grabbing some popcorn and letting it play out, so disregarding that I'll just say this:

I see nothing wrong with competition in the "anon-crypto" market, which already has a lot of competition. I doubt DeepOnion can make a big impact to that market, but far be it from me to stop them from trying. For the market in general, Monero is top dog and I don't see that changing (unless some major design flaws in Monero exhibit themselves, unlikely), but that is just my opinion.

There's nothing scammy about wanting to make money off of your own project. If the dev delivers something that is accepted and promoted by the community, he deserves a large chunk of the pie for literally creating it.

If that wasn't the case there would be literally nothing available and humans would still live in bloody caves. Are you seriously arguing against trying to make a profit off of your own work?

By the end of the last round we will see if the dev spread out the coins as previously claimed. If he does there is nothing scammy or deplorable about the project in any way.

In either case, he's not extorting morons out of their money in the form of a poorly planned ICO with a dreadful whitepaper that doesn't even make any points so this is definitely one of the least suspicious projects that are currently available, seeing as how just about everything else these days is an ICO with zero completed development.


Do I know if this is a "scam" or not? No, nobody does at this point and flagging projects based on such a laughable suspicion would literally kill crypto-currencies as a whole if it was the norm.

In a perfect world market (crypto or not) would decide if it's scam or not scam... At the moment with a market cap around of ~750k USD and daily volumes of 7k USD the market looks healthy.
I myself had some concerns about this coin but I'm on the train now. I think more liquidity and even more coins like this help overall crypto economy by providing new user base (that's trivial but essential to any market) by providing low barrier entry (literally 0$ if you don't count your time skipping through bitcointalk and replaying here and there )...
Of Course raising red flags and helping community to understand the problems helps too.