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    July 03, 2015, 10:53:40 PM
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    To get more people/computers involved in YAC or any crypto-currency, including BTC, one needs to go after the biggest audience.  See http://www.netmarketshare.com/ and in "Market Share Reports" near the top, choose "Operating Systems", then "Desktop Share by Version".

    OK, what wins with ~92% of all desktops connected to the internet?  That is what one should target!  That is why I did my videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCytoaHvG3H1y9CnxZS819eQ), showing how easy it is to make a Windows version of YAC, BTC, etc.  Of course the latest version of BTC, roughly versions 9.x, 10.x, 11.x and any other *coin derived from them, now obscure the make file inside autogen machinery,  making it more difficult to tease out the minimum set of files needed to create a *coind.exe &/or *coin-qt.exe

    I prefer to work with Bitcoin 0.8.6 and *coins derived from that version or older, since there was much less "confusion" about which version of gcc, which version of Qt, which version of levelDB, which version of OpenSSL (now there's a deep hole!), UPnP, QRencode,... and who knows how many more with the latest versions of Bitcoin?  Boost?, gcc?, Qt?, GMP, secp256k1, etc. etc. etc.

    All with no specifications given about which version works, or doesn't, with which older or newer versions?  I tried making this argument on various bitcoin foums, but to no avail Sad  I think there are just too many Linux geeks that are burned out looking at too many text mode screens!  I did that in the 1970s and 1980s in CPM/ZCPM and DOS (LOL).  Don't mind a good .bat file here and there to ease building a Windows gcc daemon or Qt version Wink

    Ron
    I did not thank you yet for those videos - very helpful indeed. I am one of windows guys (but I strive to make portable code), and I must confess successfully compiling yacoin daemon under Visual Studio was a special event.
    I hope the same will be possible with version 4.5.


    Ron,
    You may be the biggest motivator for me to help and promote YAC. I'm very glad you are a YAC stakeholder to say the least. Smiley

    I see a multi-prong attack, if you will. I see YAC being able to bolster crypto as a whole and even compete with Bitcoin in reaching out to people by having
    1) 'Cleaner', less convoluted code (as you refer to) to bring in coding enthusiasts
    2) More user-friendly, easy-to-use mining tools as ThirtyBird has already done so much for to bring in blockchain transaction processors (aka miners)--not to mention feeleep with coinmine and now NineEleven stepping up too.
    3) Old-fashioned promoting, marketing to get people to invest in YAC as a long-term commodity and eventually a full-fledged, accepted currency.

    I think a fundamental backbone behind it all is the security of the network and associated expectations. I have thrown out the concept of a 2-min block time as a potential fix, but alenevaa is completely against it, Joe_Bauers is against it, and senj, ThirtyBird, old c coder seem to have no opinion either way, so it clearly won't happen. It was just an idea to throw out there, and it has been addressed sufficiently I think. This recent attack has shown that 1) someone or some persons have access to large (relative) amounts of resources and has an awareness/interest in YAC 2) YAC needs more stakeholders to mine more or just needs more miners in general. The attack is sort of a 'badge of honor' and a good sign that the 'strength through adversity' concept is at work as previous mentioned.

    As very constructive points and playing devil's advocate, I'd expect that if I have 5%-10% of the entire network hashrate, I wouldn't have an orphan problem. I'd also expect that if the blockchain is full of PoW block after PoW block, it shouldn't take 40+ days for a 2000 YAC ("highest" priority if that means anything) input to stake. If I'm ignorant of certain details by saying that, those details are too complicated and/or not transparent enough.

    senj, I understand your upcoming changes will address those expectations--thank you so much. And I'm very much looking forward to the new wallet release. I think many in crypto will be blown away by some of the features--Joe_Bauers, old c coder, Groko, senj.  

    YaCoin: YL5kf54wPPXKsXd5T18xCaNkyUsS1DgY7z 
    BitCoin: 14PFbLyUdTyxZg3V8hnvj5VXkx3dhthmDj
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