sad.  it's like an adult talking to children.

oh wow.. that thread is gripping reading.  Train wreck is right. I see outsiders (with relevant experience!) giving free advice civilly (at least at first), and the response is a mixture of petulance and paranoia, as if it's all some attack on bitcoin.

I'm glad I was there for what seems to be on the most amusing threads in Bitcoin history, where Vegetta seems to have pissed off the whole internet lol.

White knighting 

That thread is priceless.

That thread is pretty much an indication of everything that's wrong with Bitcoin's PR, and with these forums specifically.

I know of at least three small businesses that entertained the idea of accepting Bitcoin, until they looked at the political discussions on these forums. It's off-putting to many real business owners to read what people say here. They don't want to be associated with hard-libertarianism, tax evading or government conspiracy nuts. It's almost turned me off a few times myself - I don't want people to think I'm only associated with it to avoid paying taxes, I'm only associated with it because it's a cool technology and a cool experiment in human trust.

I was having a discussion with a fellow on IRC a few weeks back, because he's a full-tilt liberal and I'm a moderate with slightly-libertarian economic leanings... he brought up about how misogyny is so prevalent in the libertarian camp, and that thread just provided ample ammunition for his case. "I don't often give my respect to whores" indeed.

Maybe  it's time we brought back the Bitcoin PR thread and really put some work into educating people on this forum, because honestly I feel like we're driving real small businesses away with a lot of the bullshit here. It's hard enough to attract them anyway, we don't need to be pushing away everyone who's not an anacho-capitalist.

This forum is so full of people who want to believe with all their heart that Bitcoin can work (which is a good thing) that they automatically turn into yes-men for anything remotely Bitcoin related. I bet I could write a thread about a business to FedEx entire cars piece by piece for Bitcoins and I'd have more people telling me it could work than not - it's that bad. Anyone talking bad about my idea is automatically ousted by the community as a troll and we're on a freight-train of bullshit off into unknown territory while looking at a map that says "destination: profit".

Look at that thread: that's the sort of thing people from outside these forums are linking to, so that's how people who haven't heard of Bitcoins are seeing the project. Don't worry about the US government sabotaging Bitcoin, we're doing an awesome fuckin' job of that ourselves and it's not costing them a cent.

I agree, mind you Mises and his pals didn't consider women to have anything worth bringing to the world other than their uterus's anyway. Libertarians are generally pretty misogynistic in my experience, they strike me as basically radical ultra-conservative in outlook, with private patriarchal power front and center over and above all over considerations, although this is never put in those specific terms.

I've often been put off from bitcoin by the dark undertone of bat-shit Randism that's so thick around here. Normal people giving the forum a look for the first time may easily dismiss the whole idea out of hand. The technology is a great idea but I worry it's biggest fans will eventually stove the things skull in with political vanity and rabid self-contradictory rants against Banksters, Keynes, Regulation, Fiat and Government.

That thread is epic, no idea how I missed that. Jessy is awesome and unlike many around here, actually has a clue about running a business in the real world. Vegetta should've paid her for all the great advice she was giving away in that thread.


+9000

Vegetta moved to my "ignore this" list around here

Ignoring every good advice he got and running a most likely illegal adult VOD site/server from your home line....sure sounds like a good idea, if you don't care about laws or TOS of your ISP. Accepting Bitcoins on legal pornsites isn't a good idea yet simply because you can't verify the age of the users you are selling the content to. But who cares about the laws if you have the bandwith to sell girls on webcams for bitcoins to an underage audience from your basement :)

make it +9001

Yeah, the fact that he even remotely thinks it's an option to host it at home should send anyone competent running in the opposite direction.


Proving yet again that anyone foolhardy enough to identify themselves as female on this forum does so at their own risk. I swear it's like a good portion of the loudmouths here found Bitcoin fromb/ or something.


Really? I participated in that thread, and I feel I did no such thing. In fact there are plenty of comments in the Reddit thread, this thread, and the original thread to the tune that if you could shut the fuck up about her lack of a Y chromosome and listen for two seconds you'd realize she's giving reasonably sound business advice.

It's just a common theme on these forums though - to hell with listening to people critique, to self-analyze and figure out how we can grow and improve as a community to attract new business. "You're a troll. You're a whore. I shouldn't be listening to you."

For the most part it's a very liberal site, though once you get outside the usual circle-jerk subreddits, it's quite balanced and occasionally a fairly rational conversation from both sides.r/Guns and a few others are quite right-leaning.

Broadly: It's mostly the types of people who want to look at funny pictures but are put off by wading through the filth that isb/.