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    April 25, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
     #1121
    Quote from: germsite on April 25, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
    Quote from: CLywaTeLb on April 18, 2018, 04:17:49 AM
    Quote from: germsite on April 17, 2018, 10:53:18 AM

    If it is a really good project I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway.

    I know some good project for which the listing for Binance is not available. At the same time, let me recall the BitConnect.

    How is this explained?

    The assumption "I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway." is incorrect. I gave an example of possible situations that show the opposite of this assumption.

    There are always exceptions to the rule, but in general that is how it is supposed to work. There are a few other factors that play a role though, too.

    Of course, but the rules in crypto quickly change. Since the beginning of the year, the market has been falling two months. Many good projects did not raise enough funds for their development. ICOs was postponed, stretched, but this did not help much. Thus, in order to survive, they are compelled to save money. Listing on big exchanges 5-20 BTC.
    I hope this situation is already changing.

    Maybe the market is more careful. Saying that good projects did not raise enough funds would mean that the market is doing a bad job. I don't believe that. I believe that many projects are overvalued and the market now comes to the same conclusion.

    Last year really confirmed a large reassessment of many digital projects. Therefore, this year the teams are preparing more carefully.

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    April 25, 2018, 05:25:21 PM
     #1122
    Quote from: berlinboy on April 25, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
    Quote from: uma@2709 on April 25, 2018, 09:40:27 AM
    Crypto is the future of the world! And no one can stop it

    Regarding the stop, I will not say anything, but if the coins are linked to other valuable assets, then only the crypto currency will benefit.

    Not only does the Crypto currency win, but all the projects connected with it.

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    April 25, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
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    Quote from: oficman on April 25, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
    Quote from: germsite on April 25, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
    Quote from: CLywaTeLb on April 18, 2018, 04:17:49 AM
    Quote from: germsite on April 17, 2018, 10:53:18 AM

    If it is a really good project I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway.

    I know some good project for which the listing for Binance is not available. At the same time, let me recall the BitConnect.

    How is this explained?

    The assumption "I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway." is incorrect. I gave an example of possible situations that show the opposite of this assumption.

    There are always exceptions to the rule, but in general that is how it is supposed to work. There are a few other factors that play a role though, too.

    Of course, but the rules in crypto quickly change. Since the beginning of the year, the market has been falling two months. Many good projects did not raise enough funds for their development. ICOs was postponed, stretched, but this did not help much. Thus, in order to survive, they are compelled to save money. Listing on big exchanges 5-20 BTC.
    I hope this situation is already changing.

    Maybe the market is more careful. Saying that good projects did not raise enough funds would mean that the market is doing a bad job. I don't believe that. I believe that many projects are overvalued and the market now comes to the same conclusion.

    Last year really confirmed a large reassessment of many digital projects. Therefore, this year the teams are preparing more carefully.

    And it seems to me that this year there are a lot of projects coming out but very few really good ones!

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    April 25, 2018, 08:31:02 PM
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    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 25, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
    Quote from: oficman on April 25, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
    Quote from: germsite on April 25, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
    Quote from: CLywaTeLb on April 18, 2018, 04:17:49 AM
    Quote from: germsite on April 17, 2018, 10:53:18 AM

    If it is a really good project I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway.

    I know some good project for which the listing for Binance is not available. At the same time, let me recall the BitConnect.

    How is this explained?

    The assumption "I think you shouldn't have too many problems to convince a large exchange to list you as they can also see the potential. At least that is how it should be. And bad projects shouldn't be able to afford the fee or get listed anyway." is incorrect. I gave an example of possible situations that show the opposite of this assumption.

    There are always exceptions to the rule, but in general that is how it is supposed to work. There are a few other factors that play a role though, too.

    Of course, but the rules in crypto quickly change. Since the beginning of the year, the market has been falling two months. Many good projects did not raise enough funds for their development. ICOs was postponed, stretched, but this did not help much. Thus, in order to survive, they are compelled to save money. Listing on big exchanges 5-20 BTC.
    I hope this situation is already changing.

    Maybe the market is more careful. Saying that good projects did not raise enough funds would mean that the market is doing a bad job. I don't believe that. I believe that many projects are overvalued and the market now comes to the same conclusion.

    Last year really confirmed a large reassessment of many digital projects. Therefore, this year the teams are preparing more carefully.

    And it seems to me that this year there are a lot of projects coming out but very few really good ones!

    I agree with you! This year I saw a lot of skam

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    April 26, 2018, 07:03:29 AM
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    Quote from: strongtree2505 on April 20, 2018, 08:02:01 PM

    This time in Europe there are countries that are not politically stable! this will be somehow taken into account when choosing how to invest?

    They will buy the comercial property in big cities. The comercial property in big cities a always popular.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:07:42 AM
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    Quote from: CLywaTeLb on April 21, 2018, 04:21:54 AM
    Quote from: veranika55 on April 20, 2018, 07:40:36 PM

    Renting of real estate  is one of the most safety business. Price for renting always grow.

    Perhaps, but at any enterprise there are risks. Otherwise, the risk-free business will be flooded with investments. I still do not know such examples.

    I'm not an expert in assessing real estate investment. But here's an example of how this can be assessed. How to calculate the risks for real objects, I do not know.
    The object costs 1000000.
    + Net profit monthly 1000; the price of the object and lease is increased by an average of 10% for 5 years.
    - In the event of a crisis, the price of property fell by 50%, rents by 30%; according to history, during the next 50 years the probability of political instability or war is 0.001.


    A lot in real estate depends from the object of real estate and the place. That is why before to buy a real estate the object pass an expertice from independent souce to preduct the future profit.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:11:09 AM
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    Quote from: tphonetic on April 21, 2018, 10:49:58 AM
    So Genesis is at the more than 5 ico listing platforms.What are your next media steps? Facebook still block the ICO advertisments?

    There are much more listings. The information about big listing is on the site https://genesisfound.io/. On the site there is an information about media and articles in media. There are a lot of advertising.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:12:37 AM
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    Quote from: Todaytech on April 21, 2018, 02:41:47 PM
    Quote from: veranika55 on April 20, 2018, 07:37:01 PM
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    The team will buy property for resale or renting?

    The team will buy property for renting.

    It is already known for how long will the property be rented out?

    They buy real estate for renting, not to re-sell it.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
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    Quote from: berlinboy on April 21, 2018, 07:08:40 PM
    How much is already collected?


    SOLD TOKEN GES: 3,258,402.01
    SOFT CAP: 3 000 000 EUR

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    April 26, 2018, 07:19:11 AM
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    Quote from: LaScuderia on April 21, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
    Quote from: Milamol on April 21, 2018, 04:58:06 PM
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    It would be very cool if investors and all the holders of the tokens could track the information on the purchased property
    In such projects, this is a necessity. The user should be able to view the history of transactions, deposit/withdrawal history, profit loss.

    Only regulators will not go for this, it means they will be lignified in a chain and they can be removed and then the question becomes open and why are they needed then? Here it is necessary to decide in the first way to get out of simple projects in the industry leaders in real estate.

    This is a question of trust. Genesis will give the muximum information about purchase real estate in personal account of investor.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:22:36 AM
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    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 21, 2018, 08:43:56 PM

    And you want to invest in real estate in Europe for what reasons? Because your analysts know this market or because it is the most profitable market?

    Becose the team specialist know Europe market very good, becase it is a very stable market and because the legislation of Europe. It has a stable legislation and cryptocurency regulation.

    The stability is the most important thing for investors.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:24:45 AM
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    Quote from: veranika55 on April 26, 2018, 07:22:36 AM
    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 21, 2018, 08:43:56 PM

    And you want to invest in real estate in Europe for what reasons? Because your analysts know this market or because it is the most profitable market?

    Becose the team specialist know Europe market very good, becase it is a very stable market and because the legislation of Europe. It has a stable legislation and cryptocurency regulation.

    The stability is the most important thing for investors.

    I agree with stability. It is very important. The cryptoccurency not so stable like a property.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:27:32 AM
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    Quote from: oficman on April 22, 2018, 10:19:13 AM
    Will the real estate for offices or shopping centers be rented out?

    Comercial real estate are offices, shoppings and warehouses. All this real estate will be bought for renting.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:30:28 AM
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    Quote from: The Crypto Peasant on April 22, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
    In what way will you platform differ from other blockchain based real estate platforms, How will you be competitive?

    E.G REAL , ATLANT or UBITQUITY

    You can know more on the site of https://genesisfound.io/

    Genesis will have an internal exchanger GDEX. It will be posible to repurchase the tokens on nominal price on GDEX.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:31:04 AM
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    Quote from: veranika55 on April 26, 2018, 07:03:29 AM
    Quote from: strongtree2505 on April 20, 2018, 08:02:01 PM

    This time in Europe there are countries that are not politically stable! this will be somehow taken into account when choosing how to invest?

    They will buy the comercial property in big cities. The comercial property in big cities a always popular.

    With small cities really do not contact. A small percentage of profits then commercial real estate will bring. If will bring.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:35:01 AM
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    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 22, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
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    And you want to invest in real estate in Europe for what reasons? Because your analysts know this market or because it is the most profitable market?
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    It would be good if these two moments are combined.
    Correct remark.
    The real estate market in Europe is likely to have a low level of risk, but not the most profitable. As always, you need to make a choice between reliability and profitability.

    In an investment portfolio there should be such objects that always brought profit. So many objects to buy in countries with unstable savings should not be.

    In countries with an unstable economy it is better not to buy real estate at all. In one day, your investment can simply disappear!

    For the first time of development of Genesis the stability is first of all. It later time they will buy the more profitable real estate all over the world.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
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    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 23, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
    Quote from: oficman on April 23, 2018, 08:06:18 AM
    Quote from: Yuzhne on April 22, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
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    And you want to invest in real estate in Europe for what reasons? Because your analysts know this market or because it is the most profitable market?
    _____________________________________________________
    It would be good if these two moments are combined.
    Correct remark.
    The real estate market in Europe is likely to have a low level of risk, but not the most profitable. As always, you need to make a choice between reliability and profitability.

    In an investment portfolio there should be such objects that always brought profit. So many objects to buy in countries with unstable savings should not be.

    In countries with an unstable economy it is better not to buy real estate at all. In one day, your investment can simply disappear!

    Completely such investments will not disappear, as real estate will remain in their hands but they will greatly depreciate.
    I would not be so sure of that. Power shifts of power will burst out and private property will simply pass into other hands! For example Islamic Gladness! What can you prove there? I'll tell you that nothing !!

    That is why the choice of the county and the legislation in this country is very important.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:43:25 AM
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    Quote from: strongtree2505 on April 23, 2018, 12:59:39 PM

    And did your analysts think about buying a commercial real estate in China? In this country, the biggest economy rest!

    The real estate in China is very profitable but it is necessary to be an expert in China to buy real estate in this country. The markets of China and India are very important to Genesis. But on the first time they will buy real estate in Europe then they will looking for India and China. They have a big comunity of investors and supporters from India.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:46:09 AM
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    Quote from: LaScuderia on April 23, 2018, 08:35:24 PM
    The question is how much their experts will be competent to have time to sell if the situation turns in the wrong direction that they originally planned. Let's say apartments in Spain during a crisis lose almost all their value and in Greece it was not possible to sell at all.
    So in addition to the fact that it is necessary to negotiate with the regulator, it is also necessary to do everything correctly on this field.

    Before to buy real estate they will have an independent expertise of the object. And it the team there are a lot of lawers.

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    April 26, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
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    Quote from: veranika55 on April 26, 2018, 07:46:09 AM
    Quote from: LaScuderia on April 23, 2018, 08:35:24 PM
    The question is how much their experts will be competent to have time to sell if the situation turns in the wrong direction that they originally planned. Let's say apartments in Spain during a crisis lose almost all their value and in Greece it was not possible to sell at all.
    So in addition to the fact that it is necessary to negotiate with the regulator, it is also necessary to do everything correctly on this field.

    Before to buy real estate they will have an independent expertise of the object. And it the team there are a lot of lawers.

    The right expertise is very important becouse real estate are bought for many years.
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