Didn't someone say that the fix had already been implemented in some pools, like tagmining.com and some others? Or does being on the longest chain not really fix the problem for those on it? I mean I've been mining at tagming for a couple days, and probably 80% of my coins are orphaned!! That's absurd!

EDIT: And also, can someone please explain why the fix doesn't get implemented immediately, instead of setting a date and waiting for that date, while miners are losing money and wasting hashing power and time? I've seen some people say "If you don't like it, go mine some other coin!" That's great customer service and an excellent way to show the people who love TAG how much they are valued.

The orphan rate on the site right now is 50%, verifiable by the block stats.  This is happening everywhere, but it is more pronounced on Tagmining because we are currently the largest pool.  So yeah, the orphans suck.  But Tagmining has also stayed ahead of the forks because of it's size.  I haven't had to resync or worry about whether we were falling behind, and usually after the orphan streaks we hit a super low difficulty for a dozen or more rounds, so it really does even out.

The orphan rate sucks right now.  But 80%?  No.


I'm one of the people that specifically said to people that if the orphan rate was a problem for them to mine something and come back when it's fixed.  But not because I want to push people away.  People who know me know that my #1 priority is the well being of my miners.  If you're not making the coin you think you should on my pool, mine on the pool that makes you more.  If the coin isn't performing like it was, go mine something else that makes you the money you need, and come back when it's right for you.  It's not about pushing people away mate.  It's about making sure people do what they need to do to keep the bills paid, and money in their pocket.  Do what's right for you  .

As far as the timing of the fix goes, it is what it is.  This isn't a fly by night coin.  The projected longevity and stability of the coin far outweigh any hiccups we've seen in the first 3 months.  I do wish we did another block checkpoint instead of a time checkpoint, but I agree that we need to make sure everyone is updated.  We could have easily had a block checkpoint, and then end up pulling a whale like BCX again to push the chain along.  Then what happens?  We're left with half the people on the old wallet, and the other half wondering why the new one still isn't working.  Dab's is 100% correct with this one.

-Fuse

Calm, down... take a deep breath... and read the last 3 weeks of posts in this thread.

Hell, read my post right before yours.

People really need to start reading this thread before they cursing about orphans and claiming scams on pools because of them.

-Fuse

Err .. 3 weeks, really?

Hey - this crap has just put a couple of new miners having a go at TAG into the obvious position of questioning this altogether if their efforts are wasted ... why run the pools if its broke - who stands to gain, certainly not them with a shitload of orphans? I was asked if this was possibly a scam so you can stick that attitude of yours right up there where the sun don't shine!

TELL YOUR POOL OWNERS TO MAKE THAT OBVIOUS on the pool that it is fucked ! Easy really, and in all our interests I dare say .. so, why was this not done, is it a scam ?

Fair enough, but do remember that folk try out coins that pop up on coin warz and other places as being profitable and on the face of it that is not entirely dishonest to be fair but your pool message however should say that you may get sod all if you mine here to be a wee bit more accurate ? Or, it may be that you only expect experienced miners on these pools ?

.... anyway, any donations will be passed to the guys who wasted their newly aquired mining capability on TAG today. You have however made an assumption that I am myself out of pocket so to speak!

OK as a total newbie to mining.. and Fuse I have been doing some reading but some i don't understand... is Tagcoin worth mining at all for someone like me?  I'm building my rig this week once the parts arrive and I have been keeping track of coinwarz to give me some idea what coin to mine.  I was leaning towards TAG and Worldcoin with Tag being the favourite. But these issues (and I haven't read all the thread to know yet) make it sound like i should reconsider?

A more experienced view please?

Also if I do has anyone got a suggestion for a good pool ?

Cheers

People forget bitcoin forked several times, and the fixes weren't immediate either. Folks were mining it still, some were buying it when it was like $1, some folks bought when a bitcoin was worth pennies.

And look at the value of bitcoin now ...

Coins worth mining have solid backing and longterm goals. An example is Bitcoin, Tagcoin, Litecoin. Coins NOT worth mining are gimmick coins.. I won't badmouth any of those here, but it'll be obvious to most to see the difference between a gimmick and something with business/investor-backing.

I disabled trade.tagbond.com - there were only 3 or 4 trade orders there, and we will the accounts with the balances form those trades. Use tagcash.com from now..

I tried to move my tag coins over to tagbond , however its out of my account and didnt go into tagbond correclty (had over 30 confirmations and had waited a day and still wasnt credited to the account)

Its not on tagcash either - any suggestions guys?

Please read the Opening Post of this thread. The orphan issue is known and a solution will be in place within a few days. It's unfortunate, but there are still random orphan issues right now.