so is it too late to get into hobo nickels , did i miss the train, do i wait for a big dip? would like some tips don't have time to research right now

Its not too late. However, you need to find the time to research your trade. Amount to risk, trade size, buying points. You need to exam the liquidity on Cryptsy, how it reacts to buys and sells. The more time you put into this trade, the more potential profit you can get out of it.
Yesterday I was watching the orderbook and decided to do a quick spread trade on HBN. You need to spend money to find out more info. So I bid on 0.00008390 and sold at 0.00009999 on 271.64598851 HBN for a quick 0.00437078 BTC profit.

So I know from this trade that with a little patience, I can get maximum value for my money, if I take my time to study the book and bid/offer in and out of positions.
Take your time, do your research, treat this like a business.