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    July 22, 2019, 06:44:29 PM
     #21
    Quote from: Have_good_times on July 22, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
    There are hundreds of ponzi and potential scam in the name of gambling and altcoins but you people are instead of spending your time on those, supporting the people who are targeting a business with baseless points. And this is where I am afraid you people are misusing the trust system which may result in paralyzing the decentralized environment.

    I checked your trust page and I don't see you creating flags or posting negative trust feedback for the "hundreds of ponzi and potential scam". Not that it has anything to do with LiveCoin to begin with. The existence of some other scams doesn't make LiveCoin any better or worse.

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    July 22, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
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    Quote from: Have_good_times on July 22, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
    There are hundreds of ponzi and potential scam in the name of gambling and altcoins

    There have been ponzies and scams throughout human history, and gambling is the biggest scam that keeps on scamming regardless of how many people expose it for what it is.  Also, there's a tonne of information available to help prevent people from getting scammed by every new altcoin project.  Skepticism is a prescription that one needs to renew often, we can't let our 2017-2018 prescriptions expire.  But there's a new batch of dangers in this era.  In 2019 the dangerous scams are the ones that pretend to be legitimate businesses, like LiveCoin.


    Quote from: Have_good_times on July 22, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
    you people are...targeting a business with baseless points.

    Baseless points?  Have you read LiveCoin's terms of service? 


    Quote from: Have_good_times on July 22, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
    And this is where I am afraid you people are misusing the trust system which may result in paralyzing the decentralized environment.

    You're premise is baseless.  Decentralization doesn't require anonymity any more than centralization requires transparency.  The opinions of a group of DT members on an internet forum can't change that.  What we can do is help prevent people from being hurt by those who abuse the decentralized nature of crypto.
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    July 22, 2019, 07:17:48 PM
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    The way Livecoin responded and said this:

    Quote from: LiveCoin on July 22, 2019, 09:17:54 AM
    At the moment, izooomrud account is fully unblocked. He can withdraw or sell his funds. Concerning the situation with MONA, we posted news with detailed explanations following this link - https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/261
    We are unable to bear more responsibility for an asset, than its developer. It is stated in the User agreement, which a user either accepts at signing up, or doesn't use our Service at all. The fact, that izooomrud used our Service, suggests that he agreed to this clause, saying the following:

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    The Service does not bear responsibility for losses incurred by vulnerability or any kind of failure of software (nodes, wallets) used by the third parties, or glitch in the software (nodes, wallets), provided by the third parties, as well as failure of blockchains or any other technical problems specific of Cryptocurrencies traded at the Platform. The Service is not liable for damages due to late report from cryptocurrency developers or representatives (or no report at all) of any issues with cryptocurrency including all sorts of forks, node technical issues or any other issues potentially resulting in fund losses.

    Besides alleged theft accusations, this user also made threats against us. His charges have no grounds at all and breach the User agreement rules, which the user accepted at registration, and that leads to the account shut-down.

    And izooomrud confirming this:

    Quote from: izooomrud on July 22, 2019, 04:37:37 AM
    I withdrew all the funds that I were available, however there is an issue with Mona coins. Currently, 720 Mona coins remain on my account balance. Several solutions of this issue were offered by me to the exchange, right now I am waiting for an answer.

    Should livecoin be called as half-guilty and half-loyal?
    Which part of this will prove to be true will be based on Livecoin's instant actions and as they are still holding izooomrud's MONA, I don't think that the cost of doing a mistake by using such an exchange which backed off from duly pursuing their responsibilities for their user or users can be $1500 worth. They should compensate him and do their best to prove us wrong, I'm curiously waiting for that day 'but I still don't think that after these intentionally aroused problems, I will be using livecoin ever even if they prove to be not guilty'.

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    July 22, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
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    Quote from: 2double0 on July 22, 2019, 07:17:48 PM
    Should livecoin be called as half-guilty and half-loyal?
    Why half? It took them a sort of ban on two signature campaigns and 20 pages of threads to come up with a partially supportive decision. Which again isn't apologetic or anything. It's proven that they don't care about the community or give two shit's about the forum's community members. What makes you think they can be any reliable?

    Quote from: 2double0 on July 22, 2019, 07:17:48 PM
    They should compensate him and do their best to prove us wrong, I'm curiously waiting for that day 'but I still don't think that after these intentionally aroused problems, I will be using livecoin ever even if they prove to be not guilty'.
    They can't prove us wrong. LiveCoin is a scummy exchange and should be avoided at all costs. Period.
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    July 23, 2019, 08:18:55 AM
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    Quote from: suchmoon on July 22, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
    bob123, would you like to create a Type 1 flag for the main LiveCoin account?

    There is one created by a troll and linked to an accusation that seems more appropriate for a type 2/3 flag if the victim was so inclined. This thread would be a better reference for a type 1 flag and I think we need one in case izoomrud's flag gets resolved.

    Makes sense.
    Especially since both accounts are operated by the same person and/or so-called 'business'.

    Created a flag.

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    July 24, 2019, 10:52:09 AM
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    Quote from: Patatas on July 19, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
    Quote from: legendster on July 19, 2019, 07:45:43 PM
    Quote from: Patatas on July 19, 2019, 07:43:52 PM
    Quote from: bob123 on July 19, 2019, 07:41:42 AM
    After receiving negative ratings and the flag against them being valid, there is a new account
    I doubt it's just the new account. Someone from the forum secretly wants to earn some money and avoid getting a bad reputation on the forum. It's obvious someone experienced here is managing the account. Regardless, right flag. Supported.

    That is deeply concerning. If only there was a way to track IPs .. wink wink?
    Not sure if you're being sarcastic or whatever but was the supposed to mean that I'm behind the new account and managing the campaign? If that's the case, I don't think the admins should waste their time finding my IP's, I'll just give them on my own lol for a terrible manager I'm. You're defending them and I can clearly see why's that.

    You really have a few screws lose don't you? How is anything I said indicative of my pointing my fingers at you?

    And no Mr tumbleweed. I am not defending them, I am defending myself and the money I fuckin lost to those scumbags.

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    August 20, 2019, 07:58:57 AM
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    Shitcoin anyone?


    https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/LibraF_BTC

    "Project" has nothing to do with facebook, they are misleading people with name. It is beyond my understanding why would they list such coin. Reminds me of one exchange, Y something.

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    August 20, 2019, 10:35:36 AM
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    Quote from: marlboroza on August 20, 2019, 07:58:57 AM
    Shitcoin anyone?


    https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/LibraF_BTC

    "Project" has nothing to do with facebook, they are misleading people with name. It is beyond my understanding why would they list such coin. Reminds me of one exchange, Y something.

    Yup, they seem to be going down the exact same route as Yoshit, just as I thought they would - it was just a matter of time. All those legendary members prostituting their profiles to promote this scam should be ashamed of themselves & be distrusted/tagged appropriately.
    PIA went evil: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org/crex24 scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.

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    August 20, 2019, 12:32:02 PM
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    Quote from: marlboroza on August 20, 2019, 07:58:57 AM
    Shitcoin anyone?

    I had a quick look at LibraF's website, not that anyone needs to visit it to call it a scam but still..., it opens up with the usual blatant plagiarism:

    Quote from: https://libraface.allbestico.com/
    Need work done? It's easy. Simply post a job you need completed and receive competitive bids from freelancers within minutes.

    Whatever your needs, there will be a freelancer to get it done: from web design, mobile app development, virtual assistants, product manufacturing, and graphic design (and a whole lot more).

    With secure payments and thousands of reviewed professionals to choose from, LibraFace is the simplest and safest way to get work done online.

    Quote from: https://www.freelancer.com/
    Need work done? It's easy. Simply post a job you need completed and receive competitive bids from freelancers within minutes.

    Whatever your needs, there will be a freelancer to get it done: from web design, mobile app development, virtual assistants, product manufacturing, and graphic design (and a whole lot more).

    With secure payments and thousands of reviewed professionals to choose from, Freelancer.com is the simplest and safest way to get work done online.

    The plagiarism part is not important here, obviously LibraF is a scam, what's interesting is that libraface is hosted/created by Allbestico with ticker ALLBI (another scam shitcoin tradable on Livecoin). I also happened to spot a few very obvious masternode scams listed there.

    So with above said, is there any easy way you can get all tradable coins on Livecoin, like a list or something?

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    Quote from: morvillz7z on August 20, 2019, 12:32:02 PM
    is there any easy way you can get all tradable coins on Livecoin, like a list or something?
    Something like this https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/livecoin ?

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    Lord, how did not I think of this, thanks a lot.  Wink (i have to put those web scraping tutorials aside for now haha)

    They even have listed unverified markets which is what I'm basically after.

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    Hello everyone! Today latest news from scammers https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/304

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    Quote from: izooomrud on August 21, 2019, 08:52:22 AM
    Hello everyone! Today latest news from scammers https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/304
    That is very serious accusation against Monero developers/auditors. Perhaps Livecoin could provide some proofs?

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    August 22, 2019, 12:35:00 AM
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    Quote from: legendster on July 19, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
    I am going to participate in their campaign to recoup some of my losses.

    Last year I deposited into one of their Altcoins that had the exact same name as another altcoin. I sent in my tokens and they were locked in a ETH address generated by them. And then it turned out to be the contract address. Long story. I have now forgotten what that coin was. My support ticket history is also deleted.

    I am trying to search my email as well, so far no luck.

    Sounds like you need a flag yourself but since i'm not sure of the flag rules rules i'll just not trust you.

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    August 26, 2019, 02:03:56 PM
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    It looks to me like the only support they have is from those that have been on their payroll.

    Quote from: marlboroza on August 21, 2019, 10:12:49 PM
    Quote from: izooomrud on August 21, 2019, 08:52:22 AM
    Hello everyone! Today latest news from scammers https://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/304
    That is very serious accusation against Monero developers/auditors. Perhaps Livecoin could provide some proofs?

    This is never going to happen as they have no proof only false accusations.
    “Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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