It's a no-brainer that economic might is the engine that drives individuals, organizations, industries, churches, governments, and nations. I mean, who doesn't like money, am I right? Sure, political power is important, but let's be real, it ain't gonna cut it without a booming economy to support it. Governments better wise up and realize that a strong economy is the foundation for everything in life.

It ain't just about the cash, ya hear? While a strong economy can be a foundation for success, we gotta keep our eyes open to the downsides. Too much dough can lead to inequality and exploitation. We gotta balance the economic growth with our social responsibilities.

let me drop some truth bombs on ya. To make some serious progress and get ahead, we need to have some serious bankroll. And not just some pocket change, I'm talking real economic power, yo. By having our economic situation under control and respectable, we can make sure our hard work pays off but also be cautious of its potential negative effects.

funny thing is that its people like you and doomads and her forum-bros that are always telling people to not use bitcoin and use other networks that have other units of value measure.. so that makes you lot the shitcoiners.

YOU lot are claiming BTC is shit hense why YOU lot want people to migrate over to LN

bitcoin is not the myspace. LN is myspace

and as for the whole comparing LN to the internet in 1991.. nope. bitcoin even from day one was able to install and make transactions without headaches. then LN came around 9 years later and caused issues, making fake promises requiring main net delays due to waiting for LN promises to flourish..  and 6 years after LN has been around, LN is still causing issues.

LN has had 6 years to try to improve itself and yet if you OBSERVE your own recruits in this very topic many are saying how crap the UI is and how hard it is to install or migrate between wallets.

if you are a dev and someone told you your software for the last 6 years has been crap and your only response is "wait more years becasue you need to think of the software as something from the early 90's so be patient for a decade"

you are not thinking about whats actually being told to you. you are just trying to be a carpet sweeping ignorant person

get the hint other networks that lock-bridge btc value are more successful than LN. those networks are only a couple years old compared to LN of 6 years. and yet you want to keep pretending that LN is cool and successful.. get the hint already. and stop using your dev groups fake promises of helping bitcoin. when all its doing is delaying bitcoin network evolution

but i explain that its being held back by idiots that prefer to promote other networks as the solution instead of concentrating on bitcoin

you lot like the bloat being added to bitcoin you like the fee's rising you lot like to tell people to stop being full nodes. stop offering IBD support to other peers. you want junk added to bitcoin and users to use other networks for payments

YOU LOT ARE THE BITCOIN HATERS

i simply hate the DEVELOPERS that want commercialised services to replace bitcoin, the same developers who are stifling bitcoin to achieve it

YOU lot want to promote that bitcoin is not fit for purpose and cant reach mass adoption

doomad your the idiot that wants to take choices away.

you want people to stop using bitcoin
you love the fees going up thus forcing peoples hands
you love the dust limits and other things that mean people cant just buy small priced items using bitcoin

heck you even love the consensus being softened so that people have no choice thus to let crap happen on the network.

oh and if people do want to ask for practical features.. you are the first to tell them to F-OFF and go play with that option on another network

you are not a supporter of a decentralised network of unity and consensus approach
you are a supporter of chaos and central control.
and as long as it brings you greedy profits at the cost of other people you dont care about other people being pushed into things that make you profit

like the services you promote so much. that DO harm others.

its funny that you think that someone needs to be traumatised to spot idiots and spot scammers and spot systems that dont work.. to then have the ability to call them out

is it because you never realised you are caught in a scam until you got kicked in the head. and you only dared call out on your scammer brotherin after they hospitalised you, or something?
are you scared to tell the truth out of fear of being traumatised?? is that it. are you afraid to go against things becasue you fear being hurt?

is this why you are not realising your advertising crap broke stuff like LN and mixers. because you have yet to be kicked in the head for your morals to be triggered enough to stop?
is it trauma that you think is the only way that you will stop?

here is a lesson.. outside of your echo chamber buddy group.. billions of other people dont need trauma to assess risks and decide to avoid things.
but for you, i think the previous kicks to the head may explain your mindset of why you toe a echo chamber line of promoting risky crap that makes other people lose value and your afraid to call out the risks. you would rather remain in stockholm syndrome, kissing the ass of your abusers

what you dont realise about doomad is
a. he advocates bitcoin fees should go higher
b. he advocates that bitcoin should not expand to allow more transactions per block

he does not want more people using bitcoin

he wants people to use LN instead because thats where he hopes to get rich. by charging people fee's for routing through him

as a side note he kisses ass of schemes that have flaws becasue he is a penny scraper. hoping if he kisses ass enough he will be seen as loyal and be offered a job with them(not formally because that means he will lose his disability benefits) so he wants unofficial jobs 'under the table'

he things anyone against greed must have suffered trauma..
reality is i am independently wealthy to not need to scheme and scam and recruit idiots . i dont need to kiss ass. i dont need to penny scrape with sig campaigns

i could understand it if doomad was just poor and was just looking for a job. but he goes to the extremes of only promoting scammy things designed to cut people away from their value.
he chooses to suck up to things that dont help the community enmasse, he just promotes things meant to screw with people for profits and side deals/back handers

he wants to break things if those things then make his preferred system more propositional.
he loves the bitcoin bloat he loves the high fee's he loves the transaction scaling restrictions/delays/avoidances

he does not care about evolving bitcoin to be scalable. he just wants people annoyed by bitcoin soo much that they end up using something else.

firstly bip39 is not private key.. its "seed phase" storage. and even today i prefer private key storage, not seed phrase.

secondly
bitcoin actually worked from day one. it didnt need several installs and scripts to link several instals together. it was just one install file and job done. it had a easy to use user interface from day one.
UNLIKE LN

also LN has had 6 years and yet things like avalance has grabbed more locked btc liquidity in 2 years than LN managed in 6. get it yet?
heck even WBTC has 30x more locked btc liquidity than LN.. get it yet


whilst idiots are saying bitcoin should not evolve more transaction count until LN gets popular. LN is already failing the "get popular task" and so that benchmark requirement to then allow for development of bitcoin onchain scaling needs to be dropped

the whole "just be patient" response about why isnt bitcoin scaling. is lame and a dead excuse. bitcoin should continue evolving for bitcoin onchain ease of use not for creating features for dying subnetworks that will never prosper

if you really want a subnetwork for the niche things you think LN should be used for. its time you realise LN wont prosper those results and you lot should start a fresh clean network with better code and less flaws. learn from your mistakes.

in 2021 you lot tried to bring LN back to life with the el salvator project.. 3 months later it died. el salvador pushed LN into a metaphorical volcano

2022 you lot tried to defibrillate and bring LN back to life with the african project.. and already they are trying to throw it in the river to drown..

if you cant see that when people try using it they have bad experiences and headaches so drop it when they had enough.. its time you accept defeat and start again with something new without the flaws people tell you..
its not time to ignore the flaws and just repeat snake oils sales pitches promising mainstream utopia

LN will not scale because LN hits a liquidity problem when more then average users try suing it. and LN cannot fix the liquidity bottle necks due to the design of LN

Strange indeed.

Did you miss the "user-friendly" part? Are you saying we don't need BIP39? Never heard of brain wallets? I can go on and on, in case you missed the point (constant evolution).

I still have DOS games from 1991 and they run just fine via DosBox.

Still doesn't make them as user-friendly as modern PC games from Steam...

I don't really get why you think storing some random words is so much more user-friendly then storing a wallet.dat-file, or PKs.

And I didn' say "we don't need BIP39", you might need it, even I might,
I didn't say it's not useful.

All I said was, that we didn't need it in 2009-2010 to store our keys, there were other ways.

Even franky didn't say bitcoin did not evolve, he just said it worked from day1.
You were the one questioning that.

Internet (ARPANET) also worked from day 1 (back in 1969). Was it user-friendly?

You don't really get why a domain name (DNS) is much easier (and thus makes internet usage more user-friendly) to remember than an IP address? Really?

You didn't need BIP39 back in 2010, because a pizza cost 5000 BTC. Most people treated it like monopoly money. Hell, they didn't even care about securing wallet.dat files properly.

You can even store your private key in raw binary format (256 bits of ones and zeroes). Does that make it user-friendly?

TCP/IP and Bitcoin are very similar in terms of constant evolution and adopting a layered approach (something that shitcoiners/big blockers tend to hate for some strange reason).

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

BTC/LN naysayers remind me of this brilliant guy.

Let's talk again in 2030. I'm sure franky1 will find yet another reason to complain by then, even if adoption skyrockets to 90% of the global population.

Because writing down a phrase is something you learn to do from primary school, whereas storing a .dat file, which is represented in a non-human readable format, is more difficult and introduces more risks?

In 2010, you were told to back up a file, which from an average Joe's perspective is more easy to lose access to, and more difficult to protect. In 2023, you're told to write down your back up in a much more safe and easy manner, before you even begin using the wallet.

One of the problems with lightning is unfortunately that; back ups. With the current model, it requires technical competence to back up your node safely.

Says the person who's done nothing in the last 7 years but to whine about "true consensus".