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    October 08, 2025, 02:32:13 PM
    Last edit: October 08, 2025, 02:45:35 PM by DaRude
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    The point is, when there are Polish troops being killed in Ukraine, you can't ask them if they were there on their own, or if they are are there under instructions from Poland. They don't answer when you ask them. They are dead. But if they were alive and you asked them, what would they say? And where would you get the info regarding what they said so that you could trust the truth?

    The point is, Russia is easily strong enough right now, with Oreshnic, to wipe out Western Europe if that were her goal. And she could probably take out the US with her standard, ages-old ICBM's.

    Russia wants to trade with the world... not destroy the world, and get herself destroyed at the same time.
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    Dude, North Korean government send 12,000 troops to fight for Russia including around 500 officers and three generals. Also there are lot of Chinese mercenaries are fighting for Russia.

    I wonder when you realize that there has been mercenaries from all over the world fighting for Ukraine already. That's the point of mercenaries, they travel across the world to fight, as that pays well. From Finland as well.

    If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine and constantly violating borders of other countries.

    So a military block keeps expanding closer and closer to your borders


    Back in 2008
    Secretary of State Rice, Merkel's security adviser Heusgen and others stood at a bar table. Russia by itself is just one country, the American argued, according to participants, whereas Russia plus Ukraine and Belarus is an empire. She stressed that such an empire, once established, would once again seek to dominate Europe, and that the Kremlin would again pursue an aggressive foreign policy.

    Then in 2013
    US supports a coup of democratically elected government in Ukraine with the third highest US politician giving out cookies


    And then there are sudden civil unrests in two main remaining countries still under Russia's sphere Belarus, and Kazakhstan.

    Now, I can see how "If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine" would be an easy selling point to the uneducated in the west, after all the masses wouldn't even think or cared to consider the other side, what would happen to Russia, the root cause of this all, or why Russia wouldn't even consider invading Ukraine in 2012 and what happened since then? The problem i have is with governments. Surely their think tanks, analysts running prediction models, their ministries of external affairs, their ambassadors, foreign relations... all knew exactly what they were doing and the red lines they were crossing, yet they still decided to go ahead and push Ukraine to suicide itself on a tiny chance that Russia would accept this and willingly quietly just wither away.

    But my biggest questions are whether back then those in power in Ukraine were just blindly used as willing idiots, or they realized what they were bringing their people into and their roll in all of this


    And after Trump said "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!" and Top EU diplomat warns Trump that Europe can’t shoulder Ukraine war burden alone...“He was the one who promised to stop the killing,” Kallas said. “So it can’t be on us.” what people are thinking still pushing Ukraine to continue to fight?



    Dude, North Korean government send 12,000 troops to fight for Russia including around 500 officers and three generals. Also there are lot of Chinese mercenaries are fighting for Russia.

    I wonder when you realize that there has been mercenaries from all over the world fighting for Ukraine already. That's the point of mercenaries, they travel across the world to fight, as that pays well. From Finland as well.

    If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine and constantly violating borders of other countries.
    Russia is often telling that they're fighting alone against whole NATO, but actually, it's very far from true. If there would be invovlement of whole NATO, scenario of this war would be different.
    While Russia is far from being alone. North Korea is only third part in this war that have sent their troops. And don't forget that Russia is using missiles and drones supplied from Iran and North Korea.
    Mercenaries or volunteers is already different story. They come to this war from all corners of world, but none of them weren't sent by governments officially.

    Ah yes mercenaries, great plausible deniability i believed peaked by US with Backwater in Afghanistan. But you're muddying up the water, the all important question is how many mercenaries are fighting for one side and how many for the other and from what countries?


    Same falacy, same ridiculous pictures:

    NATO does not "expand". Countries are free to join or not join NATO. The only reason why those countries joined NATO is because they have been under Russia, they know how it was and they want to make sure it does not happen again.

    Tell me when NATO - the alliance NATO, not members acting on their own - have ever forced any country into joining NATO or invaded a country so that it could become a NATO member? I certainly can tell you how many nationalities got invaded and assimilated "borg style" by Ruzzia for centuries.

    Example: Findland and Sweden. They were non-aligned to the limit. Do you think they joined NATO because of "cookies"Huh Then you are blind to the truth: No fuc*ing nation wants to be under Ruzzian domination. The only way to keep them in is either by subsidies or military force... or both.

    Ruzzia sucks. Being Ruzzian sucks and what sucks to the limit is being non-Ruzzian but under Moscows domination. It is just a shitty life destiny of poverty, lack of opportunities, corruption, state violence, represion and sefdom. That is why countries join NATO.

    Now, keep posting the same picture until you get banned for spam, it does not matter, most people understand that NATO is crap, but if the option is Moscow, the decission takes seconds.

    None of this is funny, but this video is as close as "funny" as it gets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qgTUTgAcL0


    You do realize that a military alliance expands when countries join, right? But at this point, i wouldn't be surprised if they started calling "getting bigger" as contraction, because why bother with facts when you can just redefine words?

    Sure it's individual countries that stage the coups and put in the "right" governments, what happens after that we have no idea. We're all oblivious to soft power here, right?

    What you fail to realize, is that it's healthy to have a balance of different ideologies, especially if people have the freedom of movement and have an option to leave at any time. The only logical conclusion to financial expansionism, is forever wars until one world government. Let's save those poor Chinese stuck living under the commie regime next, look how they all want our CBDCs, LGBT narrative, and our military alliance. Quick first send cookies to them and then follow that with tomahawks!

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