There is definitely a difference. One is a donation and the second is a bet. As far as I can see, Ratimov is not a participant in this contest, so he certainly cannot receive any prize from it. There was no agreement between Ratimov and the participants here, except for a few thanks for his generosity.
So it is a donation, a bonus, there is no trade or bet on his part.

Maybe in his anger, he will try to deceive someone, but that is just biased speculation and not enough for a negative tag.

You can also look at it from the point of view that this sponsorship was an investment in his rating here on the forum. Now that that rating has been destroyed, it makes no sense for them to put money into it.

If you say "I'm sponsoring this and here's how much I'll pay" is about as serious of a contract as it gets here on the forum. If I said something like this and then retracted it at the last minute, I'd expect to be flagged up the wazoo. Not sure where you see the difference between that and e.g. a signature campaign or some other promise to pay.

None of it matters. If you promise to pay me for doing nothing and then you don't, you would still be in breach of contract even if it's my "spare time". Sending or not sending the money in advance also has nothing to do with it.


Donor LOL

Sym-whatshisname said "sponsor". That's very different from "donor". Sponsorship is very likely to be a contract because it implies that the sponsor is receiving something in return. Words matter. No one forced him to call it that, his choice, his contract, his failure to execute.

I can see why participants wouldn't want to raise the flag here but that doesn't mean that you need to start making things up to justify that, like bankruptcy ... there is no bankruptcy, there is just a disgruntled user trying to turn everything he touched into shit.

WTF is he doing!?  
I am he is really digging his own hole deeper and deeper every new day.
Nobody forced him to sponsor any competition, so changing his mind like this is unacceptable, and I can see some members even giving him negative feedback because of this.
As if we didn't have enough drama so far...

Now after sleeping on it for a few minutes, you could argue that people mostly joined the contest because of that money, I initially looked at OP alone and saw "donated", but after seeing the merits and "sponsor" on his post, I realized this was the moment that he f'ed up.

Though the only benefit was the merits, however from a moral standpoint, this is the same as not delivering what was promised, but legally, I don't know if a post could be considered as a contract.

And now if anyone wants to have a sweet revenge, this is the time, because by community standards(bounty, signature campaigns not honoring the deal warrants for a flag as well) this is good to go.
Edit: I forgot to say, you have the option of forgiving as well.

Such a waste of so much merits.😶

Isn't this an extra argument for negative feedback, if he did that for the sole purpose of increasing his reputation?


You definitely didn't see that name before as Ratimov changed name 3 days ago.


While I don't think that money he added drastically affected amount of participants, it is nevertheless a shitty thing that he just did.

I can only express my opinion. The man promised, the man did not fulfill the promise. It is customary among gentlemen to keep promises. The motives are no longer so interesting.




How then can you make deals if he can stop keeping his word at any moment?
What if you send him money as a loan, but he suddenly needs it urgently and he doesn’t return it to you? will you think the same way?


he was deanomized back in December 2019, or rather, it was his personal mistake, because he began his career on the forum under his real name.
he was so stupid that his personal photos from social networks, advertisements from dating sites, advertisements from the sale of car spare parts, his mobile phone number was seen by many people from the Russian locale. he kept it all in the public domain.

This is one more evidence for those which still prefer to keep their eyes "wide shut" regarding Ratimov Symmetrick: everything this individual did on this forum was for increasing (or protecting) his reputation. He never did anything from good Samaritan spirit.

- He plagiarized and copy-pasted tons of materials, to win merits and show what-a-good-contributor-he is; built his entire pedestal on fooling forum users to merit him.
- He showered in merit his entire army of minions, in order to have them worshipping him about what-a-good-contributor-he is.
- He extorted those stating the truth about him to retract their feedbacks words, in order to keep looking like he has a immaculate reputation here.
- He sponsored some giveaways to show what-a-nice-guy-he is -- while all these were, in fact, more maneuvers for earning merits trust.

And now, after being exposed with all his shenanigans, which I'll repeat here:


-- after all these, he also cancel this sponsorship for Halab's contest.

I may be wrong, but it may look like he's trying to sell his account and leave it as clean as possible for the buyer and also debt-free. If a buywer would be interested in this account, he would not like the fact he'd had to pay 1600$ for a contest, right?

Or, in case he is not trying to sell the account the second thing that comes up is that he's acting like doing all he is able to do in order to receive some negative feedbacks.

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Meanwhile, Ratimov Symmetrick's DT strength reached a new record, being now -11.
Last week 2 more users added him to their distrust list (yahoo and Husires) and 3 more stopped trusting him (Charles-Tim, SatoPrincess and Smartprofit). Thank you for involving in this!

If last week the number of those trusting him was equal to the number of those distrusting him, right now, the number of the lattest became bigger: 50 users distrust him and 46 trust him. Ratimov Symmetrick's boat is sinking more and more as time passes.

From those 46 trusting him, only 27 are still active (or were active somehow recently), so there are still chances for these users to change their mind as well: Zilon, _BlackStar, Shamm, KingsDen, Silence Scream, Jossque, Coin-1, Julien_Olynpic, sky999, bubbalex, madnessteat, Snork1979, FontSeli, YOSHIE, ajanwalker, Gianluca95, rby, nimogsm, my luck, FutureBitcoin, Wapfika, dimonstration, whyrqa, CarnagexD, imhoneer, Best_Change, KTChampions.

All of the above should bear in mind (besides the already exposed shenanigans done by Ratimov Symmetrick) the fact that now they are trusting a user which has no feedback left, thus their Trust inclusion is for nothing.

As LV already emphasized twice, there is no reason to add someone in your Trust list since that user left no feedback. Practically you are supposed to trust someone's judgement from the left feedbacks, while this individual has no feedback left:

I don't know what's going on here. So I had to read the whole thread

I read the whole thread first. I realized that one user is being blamed here. I looked through all the forum logs. And I have a question.

Why did you decide to accuse him only now? I see from old posts that many people have complained about him before, but you didn’t pay attention to the complaints of small users. You yourself confirm this in this topic that many users complained about him. But I also see that during this period many of you, the accusers present here, praised and admired this guy. How is this possible? If he's a bad guy, how could you admire him while others was complained and suffered from about him?

I have nothing against the accused guy in this topic. I have a misunderstanding of your trust system. How can you praise and put on a pedestal someone who initially, according to your words here, had bad intentions? It turns out that you are all abusers too

So my second question arises. Can I open the same topic about nutildah? I don't want to wait until nutildah gets kicked out of the DT.

Otherwise I’m afraid that when the hunt for nutildah begins, someone will get ahead of me and open a topic about him first. I want to be the first accuser of nutildah, just like he was first accuser of BSV

No, because the question is only an assumption about the motive why he did it.


Would we judge this case equally if there were no previous 15 pages about Ratimov's case? I believe not and am almost sure there would be no word about negative feedback.


This can be interpreted in different ways, therefore I am of the opinion that it is not enough for red. Signature is payment for some kind of service, or promotion, and if you remove the ad from your sig space, you will not be paid.
In Ratimov's case, he wanted to pay for the improvement of his reputation, but he didn't get it, maybe that's why he doesn't want to pay.

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If we are already dealing with assumptions, it seems that 1miau got into a similar situation after the drama against him. He previously started several competitions, but he decided to cancel them all. (He also left the signature campaign.)
However, perhaps a different interpretation of the withdrawal of sponsorship by Ratimov influenced him to change his decision once again.