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To put it bluntly, the possibility of cryptocurrency taking over fiat will never happen, it will only happen when the government is no longer the leader and controller of this world. But if that happens, our world will collapse, the world cannot exist without leaders. As long as governments exist, they will use fiat currency or whatever they control, they will never allow bitcoin or any other decentralized currency to take the place of fiat. Furthermore, bitcoin was not created to take over or completely replace fiat, it is just an alternative.
You are making some pretty bold statements DanWalker.
You are suggesting that if governments cannot control money, then they have no purpose in existing, so the world as we know it cannot exist, and it seems to me that you are presuming too much in regards to governments having to be in control of money otherwise they cannot do their jobs of representing people or whatever it is that they are supposed to be doing versus what they actually do.
Personally, I believe that government can still exist without being in charge of printing and/or debasing the money, as seems to be their current and even historical practices, even maybe there had been times in which they debased it less or maybe sometimes they did not intend to debase the money, but it just happened as part of the process.. so maybe some of the spiraling debt system pickle that various governments are currently in was not completely their fault or intentional at all times, but many of us should recognize and appreciate that they are in a really shitty situation, even though maybe they can continue to prop up the current system for another 10-20 or even 50 years, but it seems that bitcoin provides a better system, in which it would be best to try to transition into whether we are talking on the individual level, institutions and/or governments.
Once governments transition into bitcoin, they will likely find themselves having different parameters and having to set up new ways of dealing with and interacting with people... and I don't claim to know how the various systems are going to evolve, but I am surely not going to presume that government and bitcoin cannot exist in some kind of comfortable and/or stable state at the same time.
I agree with this. Government and Bitcoins decentralization already coexists, or isnt it what is going on today? But if government was to adopt Bitcoin, the issue is that they will need control over it. In as much as it doesnt sound well to me, I understand that this is their only way to track fraud, money laundering, etc. However, it depends on how the government chooses to adopt it, it is possible they ruin the purpose while doing. They can also somehow adopt it and we can still see the legacy of Bitcoin. But for a fact, the coexistence of government and Bitcoin is pretty possible.
I mostly agree with you oktana, except I am having some difficulties with attempts to suggest exactly how much control that any government needs to have over something like bitcoin in order to attempt to establish various kinds of policing systems, and there are likely a variety of ways that fraud and money laundering can be tracked, but it does not necessarily mean that they have to have control over bitcoin in as much as they likely do not need to have control over people, even though there are ongoing inclinations to create systems in that direction, but the mere fact that systems are created in certain overbearing ways does not mean that it is the ONLY way to attempt to accomplish similar kinds of goals...
so maybe my point is not so much to attempt to get into figuring out exactly what kinds of systems are feasible and possible and functional along side bitcoin, but instead to at least acknowledge that both can exist, and there likely are going to be transitional periods in which earlier systems might look different from later systems... and bitcoin and fiat systems and government systems are ever changing, and even if bitcoin might end up absorbing a lot of the value of the various fiat systems, it could take 50 to 200 years to evolve into systems in which bitcoin might be considered the world reserve (settlement system), and surely there are knowns and there are unknowns, but there are also known unknowns and also unknown unknowns..so it is not like any of us could even have exact answers regarding what the balance between government and bitcoin might end up being...
In my earlier post, I mostly just wanted to point out that it seems quite implausible to come up with some kind of an assertion that bitcoin and government is incompatible.
OP's question is like the crypto will become world currency in a blip and everyone who don't know about crypto and is not very educated will lost their job and become unemployed.
Yeah, but OP was saying bitcoin was going to become a world currency not crypto.. and so even if OP was not very precise, he seemed to be putting his assertions mostly in the context of bitcoin rather than being overly vague about the matter. even though when we are referring to the future, there is likely going to be quite a bit of vagueness when we do not really know all of the factors.. but does that mean that we should make vague and meaningless assertions regarding some mythical role of crypto without giving it some kind of a bitcoin foundation?..
When you say crypto, what is crypto anyhow? Does that expression mean much of anything unless you place it into some kind of a bitcoin context?, and if you are talking about bitcoin then why not say bitcoin at some point rather than using vague and imprecise language regarding how some kind of a supposed crypto has any kind of meaning without somehow figuring out how you consider the role of bitcoin to be within whatever it is that you might be saying...
and yeah, there are people with multi-coin views of the world that try to act like they have some kind of superior knowledge because they use vague language and there is an implication that some various coins (yet unknown) are going to be the systems of the future and maybe it is going to involve bitcoin and maybe it is not going involve bitcoin. So they speak in generalities, but does that get us anywhere in terms of understanding what is being discussed?
Op did not emphasize crypto, but instead seemed to be talking about bitcoin serving in a kind of dominant role, not some vague and non-specified and meaningless concept, aka crypto.
But it's not very easy to replace fiat or banks with crypto, if in future the world or government will make bitcoin legal tender than centralized banks and crypto will work simultaneously.
banks will not going to shutdown anytime in the future.
At least you did use the term bitcoin in this part of your response, and probably if we are hypothesizing about the potential disappearance of banking systems, there is going to need to be some ideas about what might replace them and how it might both be secure and able to serve some of the purposes of our current banks.. including that ongoingly there are going to likely continue to be some people who are going to need more hand-holding in terms of the ways that they manage their money, and surely many of the bitcoiners (and even shitcoiners too) have likely come to realize that several aspects of the banking systems are mechanisms of control, and surely there are several aspects of the masses who don't seem to mind being subjected to control as long as they also have ways to conveniently access their money... We cannot necessarily blame people for frequently not being able study the various tradeoffs of money since maybe they frequently will feel that they don't have enough money anyhow... so they are frequently spending time getting money rather than thinking about the various trade-offs that exist between current banking systems that they might use as compared with having to learn about bitcoin or maybe some shitcoin, if you believe that might be another avenue that people might consider as an option regarding the various ways that they might store value and transact their value for goods and services..or sometimes maybe in the context of something like remissions to send it to themselves and/or to others. maybe in other countries or maybe in the same country..