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    • btcro2
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    July 05, 2017, 07:51:55 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on July 05, 2017, 07:30:34 PM


    For starters pool luck is 103.5% for last 7 days + mining at 1% fee.
    Thats already 4.5% lower than average estimate.

    After that you can for example have:
    - lower than 100% uptime
    - rejects, or lower effective hashrate than reported by miner
    - coin difficulty is rising due to rising price - this will lower reward every day as long as its rising

    Whats your difference btw, what kind of percentage are we talking about?

    I am getting 7.6 Lbryday - yesterday the calc was showing above 9Lbry. Now is showing a bit above 8 so it seems to come closer now. Maybe is a kind of lag in updating? or is just the reasons above...

    Can you please explain more regarding the pool luck. How does that come into play? your formula posted on the thread does not seem to include it specifically - is it assuming a 100% luck, or? could you post the formula used for lbry.

    Thanks

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    July 06, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
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    Quote from: btcro2 on July 05, 2017, 07:51:55 PM
    I am getting 7.6 Lbryday - yesterday the calc was showing above 9Lbry. Now is showing a bit above 8 so it seems to come closer now. Maybe is a kind of lag in updating? or is just the reasons above...

    Can you please explain more regarding the pool luck. How does that come into play? your formula posted on the thread does not seem to include it specifically - is it assuming a 100% luck, or? could you post the formula used for lbry.

    Thanks

    Calc will show you how much you will mine at current diff, or how much you could have mined if you did for last 24 3 7, it cant predict the future Wink
    In the future you will be able to specify diff% increase at single calculators.

    Yes calc is assuming 100% pool luck.
    lbry uses the same formula as bitcoin: hashrate * block_reward * 86400 difficulty 2**32  - per day
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    July 06, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on July 06, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
    Calc will show you how much you will mine at current diff, or how much you could have mined if you did for last 24 3 7, it cant predict the future Wink
    In the future you will be able to specify diff% increase at single calculators.

    Ok, so in the multi currency calc I see 2 figures: revenue and revenue 24h (revenue in the alt coin). You mean the first is calculated based on current difficulty and the second based on last 24h average difficulty? Is that the only difference in calculations?
    Is the same true for BTC revenue/BTC revenue 24h? Or here is also used the Poloniex exchange - current/24h avg?

    Also, in a previous post, you said the results could be affected by rejects, or lower effective hashrate than reported by miner. Do you have any idea how can I get an average hashrate from suprnova for my miner for lets say 24hrs, or last hour?

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    July 06, 2017, 07:53:11 PM
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    Quote from: btcro2 on July 06, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
    Ok, so in the multi currency calc I see 2 figures: revenue and revenue 24h (revenue in the alt coin). You mean the first is calculated based on current difficulty and the second based on last 24h average difficulty? Is that the only difference in calculations?
    Is the same true for BTC revenue/BTC revenue 24h? Or here is also used the Poloniex exchange - current/24h avg?

    Also, in a previous post, you said the results could be affected by rejects, or lower effective hashrate than reported by miner. Do you have any idea how can I get an average hashrate from suprnova for my miner for lets say 24hrs, or last hour?


    Also block_reward is used as current average.
    Same for BTC revenue.
    Exchange rate is always used current - cause you do not sell equally over 24h, but rather in batches on raises.

    Last time I checked graphs from stats are not working on lbry pool - you will have to ask ocminer to bring them back.
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    July 06, 2017, 08:47:17 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on July 06, 2017, 06:08:13 PM

    lbry uses the same formula as bitcoin: hashrate * block_reward * 86400 difficulty 2**32  - per day

    the pool is reporting, for each miner/worker, a hash rate and a difficulty. If I would use those in the formula above, should I obtain the actual earnings for that miner/worker?

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    July 07, 2017, 02:55:00 PM
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    Hey guys, can you add the € option?

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    July 07, 2017, 07:06:02 PM
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    Quote from: btcro2 on July 06, 2017, 08:47:17 PM
    the pool is reporting, for each miner/worker, a hash rate and a difficulty. If I would use those in the formula above, should I obtain the actual earnings for that miner/worker?

    You need to use global network difficulty to make reward calculation.
    Difficulty is the same for everyone.

    @cris0338
    No easy way to do it right now.
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    July 08, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
    Last edit: July 08, 2017, 02:17:43 PM by SilentBob_666
     #488
    Hi,

    Sometimes a coin stucked for hours with wrong difficulty. Now, the SIB.
    For 1+ hours show the wrong and low difficulty (~600 instead of ~1000-1100).
    If the site can not fetch the right data, you should use a daily average or just show the last update time (/coin), please.
    Otherwise a great site, thank you.

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    July 08, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
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    Quote from: SilentBob_666 on July 08, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
    Hi,

    Sometimes a coin stucked for hours with wrong difficulty. Now, the SIB.
    For 1+ hours show the wrong and low difficulty (~600 instead of ~1000-1100).
    If the site can not fetch the right data, you should use a daily average or just show the last update time (/coin), please.
    Otherwise a great site, thank you.



    Hey,

    Background worker got stuck, honestly this happened for the first time.

    Sometimes stats cannot be fetched though, for example due to unavailable source.
    In such case coin will be marked as "lagging" if last update was more than 1 hour ago.
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    July 10, 2017, 05:47:46 PM
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    I see also NiceHash listed as separate coins, but with sone different data. How is revenue calculated for NiceHash coins?

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    July 10, 2017, 06:11:44 PM
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    Quote from: btcro2 on July 10, 2017, 05:47:46 PM
    I see also NiceHash listed as separate coins, but with sone different data. How is revenue calculated for NiceHash coins?

    Nicehash gives you price of their orders.
    I just multiply the price by the given hashrate.
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    July 11, 2017, 07:30:44 PM
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    Is there a reason I'm getting such ABSURD number differences using the API vs a browser? It looks like the JSON in browser still uses saved cookie data. Is there any way to pass the data to the endpoint to get an accurate profitability estimate via CLI, or do I HAVE to emulate sending cookies to get this data?

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    July 11, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
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    is there a possibility you could ad dbix?

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    July 17, 2017, 11:35:50 PM
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    Quote from: brainbudt on July 11, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
    is there a possibility you could ad dbix?

    This coin is not on any supported exchange yet.

    @n4ru, @Hellbeast
    Think I have already answered you via email, but just for the record.
    Json response uses the same params as regular UI, so you can just copy param names from url after pressing "calculate".
    Adding `/coins.json?` to the url would work as well.
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    July 20, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
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    why is the profit so high on DGB-Groestl(DGB) with rx 480 cards ?
    is this a bug on the site

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    July 21, 2017, 02:26:15 AM
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    Quote from: Smokeyw on July 20, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
    why is the profit so high on DGB-Groestl(DGB) with rx 480 cards ?
    is this a bug on the site

    Noticed this and was wondering myself. Also crazy high profit on nvidia cards.

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    July 21, 2017, 05:11:56 AM
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    Quote from: Smokeyw on July 20, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
    why is the profit so high on DGB-Groestl(DGB) with rx 480 cards ?
    is this a bug on the site

    I have updated wrong multiplier yesterday before going to sleep, sorry for the confusion!  Cheesy
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    July 21, 2017, 08:24:00 AM
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    Quote from: fredeq on July 21, 2017, 05:11:56 AM
    Quote from: Smokeyw on July 20, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
    why is the profit so high on DGB-Groestl(DGB) with rx 480 cards ?
    is this a bug on the site

    I have updated wrong multiplier yesterday before going to sleep, sorry for the confusion!  Cheesy

    haha  Grin  to bad was going all crazy and hyped  Wink

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    July 22, 2017, 08:07:40 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on July 08, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
    Quote from: SilentBob_666 on July 08, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
    Hi,

    Sometimes a coin stucked for hours with wrong difficulty. Now, the SIB.
    For 1+ hours show the wrong and low difficulty (~600 instead of ~1000-1100).
    If the site can not fetch the right data, you should use a daily average or just show the last update time (/coin), please.
    Otherwise a great site, thank you.



    Hey,

    Background worker got stuck, honestly this happened for the first time.

    Sometimes stats cannot be fetched though, for example due to unavailable source.
    In such case coin will be marked as "lagging" if last update was more than 1 hour ago.

    first, Love the site - Well thought out User Interface.

    Second, I've noticed the difficulty lagging behind on some coins compared to the blockchain explorer, coinwarz, pools etc.. currently seeing Lyra2REv2 about 10-15 minutes behind. Is there a way to fix, or to tell that the data isn't current via JSON data?

    Last, I really love the site, and data isn't free so I can't be earning $$ while you pay for it, so is you prefered donation method  BTC: 1FanqAfDSCvQwzChwnvF3VGd9GTNV4n1tL ?

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    July 22, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
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    Quote from: BitBot.V2 on July 22, 2017, 08:07:40 PM
    first, Love the site - Well thought out User Interface.

    Second, I've noticed the difficulty lagging behind on some coins compared to the blockchain explorer, coinwarz, pools etc.. currently seeing Lyra2REv2 about 10-15 minutes behind. Is there a way to fix, or to tell that the data isn't current via JSON data?

    Last, I really love the site, and data isn't free so I can't be earning $$ while you pay for it, so is you prefered donation method  BTC: 1FanqAfDSCvQwzChwnvF3VGd9GTNV4n1tL ?

    Thanks Smiley

    Hmm stats are updated once ever 3 minutes, so the lag should not be greater than that.
    Could you please show me which exact coin is lagging those 10-15 minutes and what are you comparing it to?
    On the json you have a unix timestamp attribute, which marks last update made for given coin.

    Are you running some kind of service that uses the data, or you just mean earning as mining?

    Sure, you can donate to that BTC address Smiley
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