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    • lukemanz
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    April 22, 2018, 04:08:53 AM
     #901
    Quote from: fredeq on April 21, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
    @Navidz

    Markets supported by the website are missing.
    Will not list an algo which only coin runs as multi-algo. You can still calculate at single pages.

    @lukemanz
    Market added

    Thanks  Wink

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    April 24, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
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    there is a new coin - https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/2828707.0. what are the conditions for adding to your service. Thank you.

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    April 25, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
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    Quote from: raa146 on April 24, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
    there is a new coin - https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/2828707.0. what are the conditions for adding to your service. Thank you.

    Please use the contact form on the website and include all the required info.
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    April 25, 2018, 07:54:27 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on April 25, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
    Quote from: raa146 on April 24, 2018, 06:06:08 PM
    there is a new coin - https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/2828707.0. what are the conditions for adding to your service. Thank you.

    Please use the contact form on the website and include all the required info.
    Thank you.

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    April 30, 2018, 11:35:55 AM
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    Dear fredeq,
    quite a time ago I've sent you request via form on your website about listing STRAKS. Could you take a look on it?
    Thank you.

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    April 30, 2018, 12:35:17 PM
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    Thanks for the incredibly useful website!
    Only one thing makes me feel not enough happy is the number of coins for calculation.
    I mean, everything is great but new mineable coins coming every day.
    Yes, most of them are shitcoins, but another also our chance go to the moon Wink
    In this case, I'm trying to calculate by myself profit from some new coins, but have a problem.
    Let me explain...

    I'm using this simple formula:
    <probability to mine next block> = <your hash rate> <total hash rate>
    <blocks in hour> = <seconds in hour> <avg block time>
    <blocks mined per hour> = <probability to mine next block> * <blocks in hour>
    <revenue per hour> = <block reward> * <blocks mined per hour>
    <earnings per hour> = <revenue per hour> - <expenses>

    Good news, it works for Ethash, Equihash, Lyra2v2, Skunkhash, Nist5, X16R, X11Gost, TimeTravel10, Xevan.
    Bad news, it doesn't work for CryptoNight, NeoScrypt, and Groestl.

    Why doesn't the formula work for all of the algorithms?
    What is the correct way to calculate the profit?
    Could somebody help me, please?
    Thanks in advise!

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    May 03, 2018, 06:12:15 PM
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    @Atexor
    Havent processed it yet.

    @YarMiner
    Your logic looks sound and it should work for all coins.
    Maybe you have wrong nethash values to start with?
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    May 07, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
    Last edit: May 07, 2018, 11:42:18 AM by papampi
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    @fredeq
    Isnt it possible to change the web page layout so adding new algos doesnt need to remove other ones?
    Cost, Sort, Volume, difficulty and exchange columns can go below algos in one single line then you can add 3 more algos Wink
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    May 07, 2018, 05:47:42 PM
    Last edit: May 12, 2018, 10:59:54 PM by Mikanoshi
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    How WTM calculates avg diff? If it's a simple average then STRAKS diff is wrong, 15-30% higher than it should be.

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    May 12, 2018, 10:59:38 PM
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    fredeq Are you still alive? Grin

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    May 14, 2018, 12:51:34 AM
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    The 280x and 750Ti cards don't have prefilled hashrate and power figures listed for CryptoNightV7. Can you guys fix this? Thanks!

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    May 14, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
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    Your calculator doesn't update any data on Verge (XVG) on any algo. The last displayed and calculated block on your website is 2134509 meanwhile real latest block at this moment is 2136791. Please fix your datasources!

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    May 16, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
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    Quote from: papampi on May 07, 2018, 09:39:54 AM


    @fredeq
    Isnt it possible to change the web page layout so adding new algos doesnt need to remove other ones?
    Cost, Sort, Volume, difficulty and exchange columns can go below algos in one single line then you can add 3 more algos Wink

    That would be a solution, but currently all algos moving away from gpu section are a result of asics being introduced for those algos.
    No point to keep those algos in the gpu section.

    @Mikanoshi
    Still alive and well Wink
    It is an average diff, not sure why it would be wrong though. Can you explain what are you comparing it with?

    @mmortal03
    Will check last CN values and copy them to CNv7

    @xiders
    Unfortunately the block explorer that provided complete 5 algos diff api has been taken down.
    I have reached out on discord to ask for a similiar api, but nothing so far.
    Was using a clearnet node before for verge, probably will have to get it running again via tor.
    https://whattomine.com - Check what to mine Smiley

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    May 17, 2018, 02:24:41 PM
    Last edit: May 17, 2018, 02:34:47 PM by Mikanoshi
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    Quote from: fredeq on May 16, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
    It is an average diff, not sure why it would be wrong though. Can you explain what are you comparing it with?
    Sum up diffs of every single block for the last 86400 seconds, divide by their count.
    I get 1254: https://blockstats.pw/straks/
    WTM shows almost 1600, so I'm also not sure how that is possbile Smiley

    I'm running a node and use blocknotify to get data for each block and put it in DB.
    Code:
    SELECT COUNT(`diff`), SUM(`diff`) DIV COUNT(`diff`) FROM `straks_pow` WHERE `time` >= (UNIX_TIMESTAMP() - 86400)
    Returns block count = 1290 (~67 sec per block, matches WTM) and 1254 avg diff.

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    May 17, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
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    Quote from: Mikanoshi on May 17, 2018, 02:24:41 PM
    Quote from: fredeq on May 16, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
    It is an average diff, not sure why it would be wrong though. Can you explain what are you comparing it with?
    Sum up diffs of every single block for the last 86400 seconds, divide by their count.
    I get 1254: https://blockstats.pw/straks/
    WTM shows almost 1600, so I'm also not sure how that is possbile Smiley

    I'm running a node and use blocknotify to get data for each block and put it in DB.
    Code:
    SELECT COUNT(`diff`), SUM(`diff`) DIV COUNT(`diff`) FROM `straks_pow` WHERE `time` >= (UNIX_TIMESTAMP() - 86400)
    Returns block count = 1290 (~67 sec per block, matches WTM) and 1254 avg diff.


    Indeed my average is higher than the real average.
    From what I can see its caused by lowered diff periods of around 300-500, where many blocks are mined in short time and not all of them are cached into the db.

    Now the question remains which average is able to produce closer estimated_rewards.
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    May 17, 2018, 09:22:57 PM
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    Quote from: fredeq on May 17, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
    Indeed my average is higher than the real average.
    From what I can see its caused by lowered diff periods of around 300-500, where many blocks are mined in short time and not all of them are cached into the db.

    Now the question remains which average is able to produce closer estimated_rewards.
    How do you miss blocks? They all have unique numbers Grin
    STRAKS can change difficulty very sharply (check chart on BlockStats), I don't think that getting diff every 5-10 min is accurate.
    Difficulty already takes block time and hashrate into account, so IMHO it's the only way to calculate theoretical rewards.
    Real rewards can differ greatly because of unstable hashrate, suboptimal pool and network efficiencies, low pool luck, fees, big hashrate attacks, etc.
    But all of those are unpredictable (even fees Grin) and cannot be used to compare rewards.

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    May 24, 2018, 03:17:43 AM
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    How is "profitability" calculated? it doesn't make any sense to me.  Some examples from the ASIC tab today using 0.075 $ power:

    Bitcoin: Revenue is showing as $6.46, profit is showing $3.74 and the profitability is showing as 100%.  There isn't any math I can figure where profitability is 100%.
    Siacoin: Revenue showing 3.93 and profit is 1.59 and profitability is 60%. 

    The way I would normally look at profit margin or profit ratio would be profit over power so in the case of bitcoin it would be $3.74/($6.46-3.74)= 1.37 so a 1.37 or 137% profit ratio of net revenue over power.  I have no clue where the 100% comes from.

    Can someone help explain or point to a formula that explains the profitability calculation on the site?

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    May 24, 2018, 06:33:34 AM
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    Quote from: cmanmatt on May 24, 2018, 03:17:43 AM
    How is "profitability" calculated? it doesn't make any sense to me.  Some examples from the ASIC tab today using 0.075 $ power:

    Bitcoin: Revenue is showing as $6.46, profit is showing $3.74 and the profitability is showing as 100%.  There isn't any math I can figure where profitability is 100%.
    Siacoin: Revenue showing 3.93 and profit is 1.59 and profitability is 60%.  

    The way I would normally look at profit margin or profit ratio would be profit over power so in the case of bitcoin it would be $3.74/($6.46-3.74)= 1.37 so a 1.37 or 137% profit ratio of net revenue over power.  I have no clue where the 100% comes from.

    Can someone help explain or point to a formula that explains the profitability calculation on the site?

    The naming is not accurate - its based on revenue in BTC.
    100% is a base to compare other coins to either BTC or ETH.
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    May 25, 2018, 12:45:43 AM
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    Quote from: fredeq on May 24, 2018, 06:33:34 AM
    Quote from: cmanmatt on May 24, 2018, 03:17:43 AM
    How is "profitability" calculated? it doesn't make any sense to me.  Some examples from the ASIC tab today using 0.075 $ power:

    Bitcoin: Revenue is showing as $6.46, profit is showing $3.74 and the profitability is showing as 100%.  There isn't any math I can figure where profitability is 100%.
    Siacoin: Revenue showing 3.93 and profit is 1.59 and profitability is 60%.  

    The way I would normally look at profit margin or profit ratio would be profit over power so in the case of bitcoin it would be $3.74/($6.46-3.74)= 1.37 so a 1.37 or 137% profit ratio of net revenue over power.  I have no clue where the 100% comes from.

    Can someone help explain or point to a formula that explains the profitability calculation on the site?

    The naming is not accurate - its based on revenue in BTC.
    100% is a base to compare other coins to either BTC or ETH.

    aha! okay, well the numbers make sense then!  Thanks!

    I still wish it was what I was looking for but at least I understand what it is Smiley

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    May 27, 2018, 01:29:15 AM
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    So there won't be a fix for diff calculation? I guess it's safe to assume WTM is totally inaccurate then.

    P.S. What's up with ORE, lagging for more than a day?
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