Money don't grow on trees.

Ozzke almost went broke dedicate fully for PND for an extended period and it came a time he needed to pull his life back together.  The devs made many real life sacrifices to give PND a reasonably good chance to succeed.  They were great volunteers.

This does not mean those key figures won't rejoin in the future.  

Meanwhile, community can and need to continue to evolve the usefulness of PND.  

I can't put the concept any simpler.

We should be doing all we can to work on a roadmap with MaNI and secure his services, he's wallet is the best out there, try to fund his work to move forward. We also have PhiPhi, that is extremely commited. That's the start of a dev team right there.

And George W. Bush and Dick Cheney permanently fucked the world. Just thought this was as good a time as any to add this.

amDOGE.

I was hoping to avoid this but I see no other way, a lot of people are sticking out their necks here to defend you and you remain silent.
Many community members are putting in a lot of effort at http://www.pandacointalk.com to try find a future for the coin and you remain silent.

I'm not expecting or demanding much from you unlike some others, I don't demand that you write a long explanation or that you find a new dev team, or that you develop it all yourself. The community is doing just fine on its own, however as you can see in this forum people still see you as the main figure, and there is the matter that you are still - as far as we know the largest holder of coins and therefore the person with the most to gain if price goes up. There is also the matter that you control the community chest amongst other things which means without your participation it is very difficult for the community to salvage this situation.


Without some form of official statement from you, you make it very difficult for the community to carry on, and these constant negative messages by people will keep streaming in - and lets be honest even if they are somewhat unrealistic (like rastab) they are not unreasonable, they are based on the fact that you are completely silent.


I don't know if it is the case that you have given up on PND completely, that you are in a depression, or that you still want PND to flourish but are just too lazy or scared or something to actually do anything. (Or something else entirely)
However I can't put any more effort in while this situation remains.
I for one would like to get on with things and stop talking so here it is I am laying down an ultimatum.


-------------------------------------------------------Ultimatum to amDOGE -----------------------------------------------------------------
As the founder of this coin you have the responsibility to either try to grow this coin or hand it over to people who will, if you do nothing your inaction makes you personally responsible for people losing money. While you owe nobody anything in terms of future development by any means you must realise that this is not a time where you can just be completely silent.
I for one will no longer participate in any effort to save this coin, or defend you further, unless you either:
1) Make an official statement blessing the new community effort as the way forward, hand over the community chest to someone in the community, and donate a reasonable portion of your PND holdings to the chest so that you too are participating in trying to save the coin, if other people are putting PND forward it seems only fair that the largest stakeholder should too.
2) Become active again and work with the new community effort, make an official statement in this regard and let people know what is going to happen.

Dude ,
Ultimatums trying to bully a Young Woman, who has not even sign on to BTCTalk since
Name:            !amDOGE/5/M
Last Active:    October 19, 2014, 03:39:16 PM
is Very Very Lame.

3 or 4 in the community need to get together and made decisions for PND,
That is all that needs to happen, realizing if they want anything New done, that they will have to pay you or someone else directly. It is not complicated , it is not even hard, it just requires someone willing to Give of their Time & Money into PND.
It does not matter what other people don't do, it only matters what the people that step up to take on the role as PND leaders.
Only Question that needs to be asked is to yourselves, are you willing to give a year or two of your life to support a coin timewise and moneywise.

Post below all that will volunteer for this job , then select a new leader and then let them lead.

Problem Solved.

If no one steps up to Lead PND,
Problem is still Solved , just not in the way most are hoping for.

Good Luck.

amDOGE = Pandacoin-Official BCT account, last signed in yesterday or something like this.

MaNI speaks the truth. Even if the community will take over the future developments and stuff, it's way harder for us if we don't have the chance to update the website, post releases from an official account and if we don't have access to the community chest to fund further developments.
And even a short statement like: fuck you all, I'm out! would be better than just remain silent.

It's not a shame to say you don't want to work on it anymore, amDOGE has done enough for PND. But if there's no more interest in continuing the project, then please hand it over and give a short statement.
At the moment you're working against the community and this has to end.

Is this really any way to carry on, throwing a tantrum, stamping your feet and demanding everything for free? It sounds to me as if you brought for purely speculative reasons and now have no idea why the coins price has gone south.

wtf and pndisdead's posts are 2 different cases, don't lump one useful, critical member (wtf) in with the same pile as Chicken Little "Mr pndisdead ahhhh the sky's falling in" as people might think you can't discern between the two.

You have obviously not seen or ignored what is going on over at pandacointalk.com or you would realize that many of the people you're ranting to here are the new dev team.

The sole responsibility of the success of the coin directly lies with those who believe Panda coin has merit and is an idea worth fighting for.

To say the community invested in the coin by buying it is not entirely true I bought a coin I liked because of the friendly community and vision for Panda coin as money, yes there was an element of speculation but I knew I wasn't buying shares or the indentured slavery of the devs.

rastab48 you don't have to be that guy, you know the angry, incensed, entitled guy demanding, screaming it's not fair, me, me me guy!  You have a choice, work with us and even if we crash and burn we've had a good time doing it or you can remain angry and bitter in which case I don't think anyone can help you.

You have to wait until the duration of the stake finishes. When you unlock your wallet make sure you uncheck "for staking only" so that future PNDs won't get used for stake again

Agree 100% with MaNI and donacid that amDoge should make a statement one way or the other regarding status as it would help us all, I think the ultimatum was a little dramatic but obviously there are some strong feelings on this subject but ultimately Argon18 is correct in his assessment that in the worst case all we have to do is soldier on regardless hoping that amDOGE is just a chaotic neutral.

Yes, thanks, that about sums it up.