Hello all,
I have been trying to sort all this out with Makoto for 5 month now
we have to write here as Makoto is no paying attention to us and this is our last resource.
Just want to let you know, I'm JAMTHIRTEEN that made a sockpuppet redemption claim on nem forum. The claim is for my account and my girlfriend acccount (JAMTHIRTEEN NBXVHA-S2TOYM-H4GFFO-V3SGIN-SP6DLT-HERCMK-RBN3 and MAMEN NBKEYS-BJB74B-5M7Q4Z-Y6N5AZ-JPDUY7-5T7UHZ-VINH ). If you need anything else please ask.
The problem is that I work with other two colleagues that also have NEM Stakes and we did it all from our work place that's why you might think there is one person with 5 Stakes but we are 3 people. Same Ip address from work place.
To help you in the investigation my work colleagues BTT account are:
1 JERJU80 NC7IWM-24KC6K-BT7SH2-2VOESS-QNGCTA-CSDKZT-CK72
2 SANDRAMABE NC2V53-WKYFCC-MKETYL-M3IXHJ-VF3HJZ-B4IHTC-LQDZ
3 OSCARVENEGAS NC7545-ULAZAR-5CEWIU-R3H5R6-6Z6SGH-XP64NX-JNUY
Please let me know if they should send you a separate email, please advise as we don't want to confuse or complicate this unnecessarily
We can provide any evidence you require to send and we can send our passports, names and anything you need to clear this. we have took some photos working in the office with the client open in the PC, we can send this photos to you if you tell us how or any other photo you like us to take.
Then he offered us only one stake. One of his post here he said t ''Same IP + same fingerprint means the same computer. The rules were 2 stakes, which were meant to be 1 for you and 1 for a friend/loved one.'' If thats the case why he offered us only one stake? It should it be 2! Now we are genuine and we should have received 5 as we did it from our work place. There was not rule you could not do it from work where other people can create accounts. You keep changing the rules all the time.
Now this is the last emal with Makoto:
Quote from: makoto1337 on June 29, 2015, 08:19:07 AM
We will give a stake back to sandramabe. Can you give me a NEM address to send to?
Thanks Smiley
Thank you but as I told you in my last email sandramabe is the stake of one of my job partner Jerju80...
i'm jamthirteen and my Nem address is NBXVHA-S2TOYM-H4GFFO-V3SGIN-SP6DLT-HERCMK-RBN3
I will pass your information to Jerju80 so that he can send you an email about his stake and wife's.
We all follow all the instructions from the begining of NEM to get the stake and we think it is not fair to receive just on for sandramabe...We would like you to think about it and change your mine. Please let me know if we could add any other information you need.
thanks in advance
Jamthirteen
hello there
did you read my last message?
update please
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Please can you tell me what happened?
Hello All,
Many people I am sure who is telling us to move on got their stakes and now don't care about the rest of innocent people who has been caught in this injustice. Makoto and after Management is not doing anything to investigate either during , before or after the redemption process.
They are not interested as they need this what the called sockspuppets account stakes to finance their project regardless if they are innocent or guilty. We need the MONEY!
You don't give us what belong to us but The Law Court will. I will show in the future if my unreceived stakes is of high value of money to take it to the Law Court to be able to make a case. I can not do it now for $300 a stake as is not enough money to make a case but I will when its $1.000.000 when I can make it a cause to bring it in front of the judge and the lawyers.
Below are the main points the Judge will take into consideration when studying our case and this in the Law Court will be a win win victory, Here we can not fight injustice as justice does not exist.
Please see below:
Makoto1337 page 1007choochimil has a lot of posts now, but at the time of the sock analysis, the account only had 10 posts in over a year.When we registered for our NEM stakes there was not rule that you need to have certain number of posts to be considered a sock ==> Judge will look into this ( Breaking the contract)
Makoto page 1007
Same IP + same fingerprint means the same computer. The rules were 2 stakes, which were meant to be 1 for you and 1 for a friend/loved one.When we signed to get the stakes where did it say same IP address??? if the rules says 2 stakes why CECVW got 3? breaking your rule? We use same IP address for the reason explaining in my previous post but you breaking the rule again as we only received one stake, my work colleague stake( 1 JERJU80 NC7IWM-24KC6K-BT7SH2-2VOESS-QNGCTA-CSDKZT-CK72). But we are entitle to the 4 remaining stakes as when we signed to get the stakes the same IP rule did not exist , We are 3 work colleagues and we can prove we are as we got the NEM accounts using our works email address so that will show the Judge we are really 3 people. So you break your latest rule by giving us only 1 and you break all kind of rules by adoption new rules whenever you like. Why don't you put rules on how many sockpuppets accounts management receive? This will be shown in the Law of court. Our accounts are with work email addresses.. so the same person? really how do I get access to my work colleagues emails address to get the private keys? Judge is not stupid
BloodyRookie page 1008
many non socks getting no stake which is again unfair for obvious reasonsSo if you didn't get your stake although you deserved one I am sorry for that, we could not avoid some misjudgements during the cleaning processThe Judge will know you admit you did not give stakes to innocent people
Jabo38 page 1008
There was a tough and hard decision to make where a few would sufferThe Judge will know you admit you did not give stakes to innocent people
dannac page 1009
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.The Judge will consider why you create news rules after process has started, is it legal in the eyes of the law to do that? Example you buy a house with certain rules/ agreements but then 10 year later the seller decide to add new rules and the owner of the house lose the house because he is not complying to the new rules?
mill0601 page 1009
Redemptions are over people sorry you got caught please gove it a rest.and Dannac answered with common sense
We have not been caught, because we haven't done anything against rules.
Is it that hard for you to understand that someone else that is not you could be right, and that you could be wrong sometimes ?
We can prove that we are telling the truth, but Makoto doesn't want to listen... it doesn't give us a chance.
It's clear that they are more interested in keeping our stakes for them.)
patmast3r page 1009
I totally agree that the latest round of sock removals was handeled pretty terribly.The Judge will know you admit you did not give stakes to innocent people
fondobinario page 1010
If they are the legitimate owners of these stakes they should be given to them. Also, Makoto said in http://cointelegraph.com/news/114932/nem-right-now-we-have-the-best-designed-blockchain-platform-in-existence ''I am able to leave my job, which I am already in the process of doing. This will give me more time to work on NEM and also to push the development of the NEM ecosystem forward''
He has been handling the socks list, where will he get the money from to live now? This makes me think somehow where the Socks NEM Stake will go. These are just my thoughts and opinions.Dannac answered to this
dannac page 1010
We have been talking about Makoto for 10 pages , and he didn't even show up. Typical of his attitude.
He's busy. Yeah is busy...
To count his NEMs probably GrinIn the future The judge will investigate where and why innocent people were not given their stakes when they claimed for it before/ during/after the redemption process, we brought our cases in front of management many times.
I urge everyone to stop complaining and asking for their stakes as its fruitless but to print out this post and keep it safe to bring in from of their respective Judge/Law court because there Justice exist where You will be able to show all the evidence.
I will not write anything else and dannac I ask you to do the same, you are wasting your time here but not in a place called Law Court if NEM is worth millions and we can make a case to take it to the tribunals.
Best regards
