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    • vulgartrendkill
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    July 17, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
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    just had a call from UPS.

    Apparently of the 2 invoices bitmain supply they give 2 different values.  935 usd and 975 usd.  they wanted to know which one I actually paid?

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    July 17, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
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    Quote from: vulgartrendkill on July 17, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
    just had a call from UPS.

    Apparently of the 2 invoices bitmain supply they give 2 different values.  935 usd and 975 usd.  they wanted to know which one I actually paid?
    Tell them 935.... duh
    It should be accurate after the 7% discount.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
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    Quote from: Collider on July 17, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
    Quote from: vulgartrendkill on July 17, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
    just had a call from UPS.

    Apparently of the 2 invoices bitmain supply they give 2 different values.  935 usd and 975 usd.  they wanted to know which one I actually paid?
    Tell them 935.... duh
    It should be accurate after the 7% discount.

    I did.  More bizarre is that bitmain would give 2 different values?  Or is this a normal thing?  BTW the person confirmed that they are listed on the documents as "bitcoin miners" and as such are treated as computer hardware. No import, duty just vat.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:36:51 AM
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    Quote from: vulgartrendkill on July 17, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
    just had a call from UPS.

    Apparently of the 2 invoices bitmain supply they give 2 different values.  935 usd and 975 usd.  they wanted to know which one I actually paid?

    That means full real value declaration. Don't forget to update the customs duty charged by them.
    I did a search on duty estimate website and found only one product as Antminer and its priced over $1500 for one.
    Its the S2 price. They may think S3 is more priced than S2, if customs charged based on this then, it will become a real issue.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
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    Bitmain has been declaring their miners at the purchase price for quite some time now.

    If for some unknown reason customs charge more than the percentage for VAT based on the purchase price, you can get that additional money back.

    However, do not forget that the carrier ie UPS charges around 10€ for the customs service on top.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
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    Quote from: Collider on July 17, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
    Bitmain has been declaring their miners at the purchase price for quite some time now.

    If for some unknown reason customs charge more than the percentage for VAT based on the purchase price, you can get that additional money back.

    However, do not forget that the carrier ie UPS charges around 10€ for the customs service on top.


    Its difficult to get such a refund. The first thing is that bitmaintech issues no invoice.
    Blockchain info and the order page is the only proof. I doubt whether they will accept it.
    Move over its bitcoin and so you need some luck if you are dealing with non-bitcoin friendly officer.
    BitMainTech should allow CC/paypal payment from the next sale.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:58:23 AM
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    Quote from: allcoinminer on July 17, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
    BitMainTech should allow CC/paypal payment from the next sale.

    Or they could simply add the spot price to your invoice on the account page at time of order, let's not go back to the dark ages shall we when there's an easy fix.

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    July 17, 2014, 09:58:32 AM
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    Sure, you can just print copy your invoice.
    It states the time and date of purchase and the bitcoin amount, you then look up the exchange rate and write that to customs.

    Customs asked for an invoice from me once and I did what I described, they accepted it.

    Customs accepts a lot, even emails when you purchase something privately.

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    July 17, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
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    Quote from: allcoinminer on July 17, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
    Quote from: Collider on July 17, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
    Bitmain has been declaring their miners at the purchase price for quite some time now.

    If for some unknown reason customs charge more than the percentage for VAT based on the purchase price, you can get that additional money back.

    However, do not forget that the carrier ie UPS charges around 10€ for the customs service on top.


    Its difficult to get such a refund. The first thing is that bitmaintech issues no invoice.
    Blockchain info and the order page is the only proof. I doubt whether they will accept it.
    Move over its bitcoin and so you need some luck if you are dealing with non-bitcoin friendly officer.
    BitMainTech should allow CC/paypal payment from the next sale.


    I did say to the guy that I paid in bitcoin so actually it had no usd value, but he didnt buy it.

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    July 17, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
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    Quote from: vulgartrendkill on July 17, 2014, 10:06:40 AM

    I did say to the guy that I paid in bitcoin so actually it had no usd value, but he didnt buy it.

    It obviously has USD value if you pay in XBT which trades for USD  Grin

    Customs can only tax you according to the law, which states X% of actually payed price, so they have to prove that you actually payed a higher amount if they want to tax you higher.

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    July 17, 2014, 10:10:19 AM
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    Im from Europe so bitmain told me they could send me the invoice in EUR to my email(they generate the invoice in USD for UPS) so once the miner is shipped out i will ask them for the invoice and they will email it to me Smiley

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    July 17, 2014, 10:28:02 AM
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    Quote from: oskuro on July 17, 2014, 10:10:19 AM
    Im from Europe so bitmain told me they could send me the invoice in EUR to my email(they generate the invoice in USD for UPS) so once the miner is shipped out i will ask them for the invoice and they will email it to me Smiley

    well I am batch 1, so I paid 1.5btc.  1.5 btc as of the date ordered (361 GBP PER BTC) was 541.50.  However at todays USD to GBP rate 1.71= 546.30.

    So I am actually being charged at a rate 5 GBP more than I paid....

    Anyway, whats a fiver between friends?

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    July 17, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
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    Are other buyers of Batch 1 S3 still waiting for shipment as well? 
    I'm checking on Bitmain and UPS but still nothing  (B1 late 30June about 21:40)

    Cheers

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    July 17, 2014, 10:54:42 AM
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    Quote from: kabopar on July 17, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
    Are other buyers of Batch 1 S3 still waiting for shipment as well? 
    I'm checking on Bitmain and UPS but still nothing  (B1 late 30June about 21:40)

    Cheers

    Nope, still nothing on UPS or Bitmain, I'm waiting for B1 also.
     order: 2014-06-30 17:55:18

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    July 17, 2014, 10:57:23 AM
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    Quote from: googoofish on July 17, 2014, 10:54:42 AM
    Quote from: kabopar on July 17, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
    Are other buyers of Batch 1 S3 still waiting for shipment as well? 
    I'm checking on Bitmain and UPS but still nothing  (B1 late 30June about 21:40)

    Cheers

    Nope, still nothing on UPS or Bitmain, I'm waiting for B1 also.
     order: 2014-06-30 17:55:18

    You are a few hours ahead of my order... looks like we need plenty of patience, it certainly won't arrive before this weekend.

    Cheers

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    July 17, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
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    my miners are on route to the UK and have just left Mumbai!

    initially I was like WTF

    From Shenzen to Bangkok to Mumbai to UK.

    A bit wierd so many stops but there you go.

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    July 17, 2014, 11:11:58 AM
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    Quote from: vulgartrendkill on July 17, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
    my miners are on route to the UK and have just left Mumbai!

    initially I was like WTF

    From Shenzen to Bangkok to Mumbai to UK.

    A bit wierd so many stops but there you go.
    UPS or whoever your 'shipping' company is are concerned more about their flight costs than your difficulty rising.... Still knowing that your S3's are on the way is better than some of us whose stuff is still unshipped.

    Cheers

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    July 17, 2014, 11:19:04 AM
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    Its called Logistics, not "Logical"! Cheesy

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    July 17, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
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    Quote from: kabopar on July 17, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
    Are other buyers of Batch 1 S3 still waiting for shipment as well? 
    I'm checking on Bitmain and UPS but still nothing  (B1 late 30June about 21:40)

    Cheers

    Still waiting for mine to ship  Cry

    Ordered : 2014-06-30 22:04:41
    Paid      : 2014-06-30 22:10:30

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    July 17, 2014, 11:45:48 AM
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    Quote from: navigator on July 16, 2014, 11:37:37 PM

    Bitmain stated in an earlier post that they only had an S2 farm and 1 S3 for testing. They could be lying who knows. The recent 24% could have been from other mining hardware being turned on and tested. Also if people are getting S3's and the parts smell brand new, then that's another indication that haven't mined with the S3's. It would take multiple weeks of running the S3's for the difficulty to raise 24%. I would think a couple weeks worth of use would be noticed by customers receiving their miners.

    I do not think so. Their S2 farm is already sold empty. Yesterday I got my last S2. It was apparently used, cleaned, and the main was very scratched.  He was used  with Rack Mounts, because of the mounting points were bent out.  The housing cover fixing poits was different from all my previous miners. I've bought them before 15 units  at different times and had not seen this disain  before.
    I think that they are now S3 farm.
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