you want to end up on the "graph of shame"? 

no, i think we'll leave it just as is.

they are both collapsing at different rates.

still, both are way safer than fiat in a bank, so the fun will start with the run to quality/to the exit.

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Especially regarding gold, the bankers have like 80% of the total supply in their vaults (latest addition: Ukraine gold reserves flown to the U.S. when the coup took control of the capital). It is hard not to control the market with such a share.

Indeed.  Someone should make a BTC price chart with a marker of every 'bitcoin up, gold collapsing' post of cypherdoc's.  And in 2014 to give the guy a little humility.

Cyph is a 'one trick pony'.  He's right sometimes and not others.  Anyone could do the same with a 50% chance of the same success.  I think it was you and I who talked openly about making a shift (temporary or otherwise) when a BTC was up in the $1000 range.  I was to lazy to do the PM part of things, and slowed down by what turned out to be some poor advice from my CPA.  I guess you were not.

Anyway, the people I have some respect for are those who's positions, and especially in shifts in those positions, result in demonstrable advantageous gain.

I'm always amazed at how clearly and efficiently Rickards communicates.  Generally speaking I've never known quite what to make of him, but I've got a lot out of his descriptions of economic principles and such over the years.

Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

No offence, but it's always seemed to me that physical PM BTC manage mostly to join the worst aspects of both asset classes into one integral unit.  And at a healthy premium.  OTOH, they may very well have a value to collectors which ends up on the positive side.