Dont sweat it mate, one day this prolly wont even matter will it.

Btw there is a Twitter tipbot commissioned by TrollsRoyce built by @coinlabs HERE and the guide on how to use it is HERE. Enjoy

Well I figured a small article was in order :

EDIT : changed the title on request, so here's the correct URL :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/soepkip-joins-shadowcoin-as-community-manager

Let's not create a pump too fast guys, these are killer prices right now.

I'm hearing you, deal of the century, i got 40k dumped on me at like 12k yesterday people must be stupid

A.
I find it odd that you're debating and attempting to belittle a holder based on your assumption that Ryno and the Shadow team are incapable of developing zk-SNARKs into a working crypto. Everything developed here (Shadow) were firsts for crypto (PoS) - Android, iOS, Dual-Key Stealth (authored and open-sourced). Whitepapers always come with new technical releases and not prior. This project functions like a real software project, not a crypto meth lab. Why? Because the Ryno is a real developer, with a heavy background in the financial software development - specifically internet banking infrastructure.

My question to you: Why would he pre-release the blueprints for one of the biggest advances in cryptography since Bitcoin?

If you're a cautious investor, then wait until it gets released (with WP) and panic buy with the rest of the sheep. On the other hand, if you want to find out more information hop into IRC #shadowcoin. The closest you'll get to a spec prior to it's release is the statement below from Bitcoinist. This industry is cut throat and most of the other "developers" are shameless as fuck. This coin has already been cloned about 5 times in the last few weeks.

B. Ownership Solutions
There are different solutions one being coinwitness. If you actually took the time to research this project, or have spoken to someone on the dev team prior to posting here would know that a whitepaper comes with each new technical feature release. Products that are announced are already in the test cycle. Shadow doesn't pre-announce vaporware here. Devs are in IRC pretty much 24/7.


3. How does your privacy methods differ from other methods?

"Our solution (ShadowSend) is completely trustless and it allows automatic creation of new addresses for each transaction. It does not rely on any other nodes to deliver the transaction, so it’s instantaneous. In addition, the transaction sizes are small, so blockchain bloat won’t be an issue.

Furthermore, with our upcoming trustless zk-SNARKs implementation, coin values will be hidden on output transactions to stealth addresses and a proof will be included in the transaction. The benefit of having the values hidden in transactions: no one would be able to trace outputs back to the Coinbase."

- http://bitcoinist.net/shadow-coin-developer-interview/

C. Private Comm.
You're arguing that chat, video, phone calls that are anonymous do not matter to people who care about "anonymity and security" Lulz. That makes absolutely zero sense. You also state that communication has no value to a cryptocurrency and is a "gimmick" feature.. Man you really have no clue about business do you? The primary factor in a financial or private commerce ecosystem is secure communication between parties. You could have the most secure coin but something like e-mail, txt sms or a call could compromise the transaction or the negotiations. If you look at the preview you can send funds right through the ShadowChat. If you can't see the value or the innovation here then I don't know what to tell you.


P.S. If someone mentions TOR as an innovation for crypto here on Bitcointalk, I'm going to take another break from the altcoin section. The ignorance here shines brighter than anywhere else on the net. Even one of the Bitcoin core developers agrees with me: https://twitter.com/TrolIsRoyce/status/507365985247301632

+1 well said Coolstoryteller.

Jamming chat, etc., in a wallet is a poor attempt to conflate different types of information exchange. In a true trustless and anonymous transaction protocol, the information is a shared secret between sender and receiver that allows the receiver to prove a transfer of ownership.

You may think to yourself that chat solves this problem. Namely, sender and receiver set up an encrypted channel and exchange the secret. That can work great, but you don't need zk proofs in this situation. zk proofs solve the problem of ever exchanging the secret in the first place. So you don't need chat. I.e. it's cryptographically irrelevant.

Chat also has the problem that the sender and receiver need direct communication to exchange the secret. That's horribly limiting: "Hey Ted, we need to exchange some money, when are you available to do that?" At some point, the conversation has to be initiated on the private channel. So sender and recipient have to meet and exchange a secret to meet up on the channel. It defers the problem and so you still haven't solved it. Again. Chat, etc. become irrelevant because of this need to establish the private channel.

Also, zk proofs are good to solve the problem of exchanging a secret because it eliminates the need of the exchange. But stealth addresses already do that. So why implement zk proofs to solve a problem already solved by the coin that you cloned from (vertcoin)?

Right now, for crypto, zk proofs have been promised for zerocoin (zk=zero knowledge). But zerocoin is being worked on by people (1) smart enough to conceive of it, (2) smart enough to provide a public blue print giving enough information for one to determine where the proof fits, and (3) smart enough to know that even with this blueprint, they are still going to beat anyone who tries to implement their idea.

Hence, my conclusion (for which I can find no contradictory evidence) is that the shadowcoin dev borrowed "zk-SNARK" from the zerocoin whitepaper in the hopes that they make a release and he can clone the technology into shadowcoin.

I have no doubt that the SDC dev can pull this off. My doubt lies completely with the zerocoin team in that they have conceived of an idea that is impractical to implement and therefore impossible to clone because it will never exist.

Yeah, I'm trying to envision a coin that solves the real cryptographic problems with anonymity. BBR is as close as it comes right now, unfortunately.

Good signs folks... Shills are out in force. We may see an ATH soon.