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    April 15, 2016, 02:55:20 PM
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    An example of one of my several correct predictions on ETH:

    Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 15, 2016, 02:53:58 PM
    Quote from: Washika on April 15, 2016, 02:32:11 PM
    Is that the reason that the Ethereum price rises recently?

    No sorry I caused that:

    Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 08, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
    Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 08, 2016, 08:44:26 AM
    On the non-logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broke down through the February pump support, and the next support is from the January support line which currently extends to about 0.0164 BTC ≈ $7:

    https://dc-charts.com/chart_eth.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=6&ar=1

    On the logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broken down through all support lines and there is no support.


    Quote from: TPTB_need_war on March 08, 2016, 05:52:41 AM
    If it breaks below roughly $8.50, then next uptrend support line is at roughly $7. The next support would be at roughly $6. If below that, there is no support and it would collapse.

    Slow rate of collapse might be short covering.
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    An easy to understand guide on how to restore your MyMonero account/wallet with simplewallet

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4exiih/an_easy_to_understand_guide_on_how_to_restore/
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    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.
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    April 15, 2016, 05:15:25 PM
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    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Very profitable trade. We know those will be covered with huge profits. This is my favorite dump coin. Price goes up, dump some more otherwise regret not dumping. At this point there not more than a few hundred people trading, most of whom are on this thread. It's a race to see who cums first. Post some charts if necessary LMAO
     
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    April 15, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
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    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Doesn't seem rational to short a coin that's already down ~30% for the week.  Why not wait until it's up?

    Perhaps this is irrational rage-shorting by some angry Dash FailWhales.

    They've been in a giant anti-Monero tizzy since Tone Vays pronounced Dash's instamine to be fraudulent, not "accidental."

    Please keep dumping guys.  I need XMR under 0.001 to buy MOAR without raising my avg cost.   Grin

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    April 15, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
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    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 15, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Doesn't seem rational to short a coin that's already down ~30% for the week.  Why not wait until it's up?

    Perhaps this is irrational rage-shorting by some angry Dash FailWhales.

    They've been in a giant anti-Monero tizzy since Tone Vays pronounced Dash's instamine to be fraudulent, not "accidental."

    Please keep dumping guys.  I need XMR under 0.001 to buy MOAR without raising my avg cost.   Grin

    guys guys... you were venting anger on Dash as your coin is losing value... hummm how come it losing value anyway..

    1. no GUI.... means less ppl willing to try it because its too difficult to them

    2. infinite max coin with perpetual emission forever

    3. moar and moar clone coin with with same dev, further diluting your coin value... i mean, if i can buy aeon for cheaper why i buy monero Huh

    tell me why Huh  same dev, same feature ?

    does any of those 3 should be blamed on Dash ?
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    April 15, 2016, 05:55:48 PM
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    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 15, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Doesn't seem rational to short a coin that's already down ~30% for the week.  Why not wait until it's up?

    Perhaps this is irrational rage-shorting by some angry Dash FailWhales.

    They've been in a giant anti-Monero tizzy since Tone Vays pronounced Dash's instamine to be fraudulent, not "accidental."

    Please keep dumping guys.  I need XMR under 0.001 to buy MOAR without raising my avg cost.   Grin

    guys guys... you were venting anger on Dash as your coin is losing value... hummm how come it losing value anyway..

    1. no GUI.... means less ppl willing to try it because its too difficult to them

    2. infinite max coin with perpetual emission forever

    3. moar and moar clone coin with with same dev, further diluting your coin value... i mean, if i can buy aeon for cheaper why i buy monero Huh

    tell me why Huh  same dev, same feature ?

    does any of those 3 should be blamed on Dash ?

    How is this in any way related to DASH? As in venting anger on DASH? noobtrader was referring to iCEBREAKER's post here. Perhaps the "guys" threw me off, since it was only iCEBREAKER.

    [1] I agree on that point. A GUI is somewhat necessary to increase adoption, at least within the online cryptocurrency atmosphere.

    [2] Keep on FUDding, that has been known since the start:

    Quote from: smooth on April 15, 2016, 09:02:50 AM
    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 07:55:57 AM
    yet they didnt announce in their monero ann about the eternal infinite coin supply

    Incorrect.

    Quote from: https://web.archive.org/web/20140520215957/https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/583449.0
    A minimum subsidy may be implemented in the future with <1% inflation to preserve mining incentives.

    Quaint to see the [MRO] symbol from back then.

    It was there from the original post before any edits (perhaps forum admin could verify) but that is the first capture in archive.org, May 20, 2014.

    Whatever your criticisms of Monero, please do not make things up.

    Furthermore, a tail emission is necessary to keep incentives for miners. Fees alone won't bring sufficient incentives and rewards for miners. Readers might find this excellent post from ArticMine regarding this subject interesting:

    https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/753252.msg13591241#msg13591241

    [3] Why should I buy Bitcoin if I can buy Litecoin cheaper? Or Dogecoin? Or DASH?
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    April 15, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
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    1. so we all agree on this one

    2. i bet alot of ppl dont even realize that Monero has infinite max coin. nevertheless im sure the whale who shorting your coin know.

    3. Btc, Ltc and Dash has different feature AND Dev... im sure you realize that.


    EDIT :: i forgot to answer How is this in any way related to DASH? As in venting anger on DASH?


    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:55:48 PM
    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 15, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Doesn't seem rational to short a coin that's already down ~30% for the week.  Why not wait until it's up?

    Perhaps this is irrational rage-shorting by some angry Dash FailWhales.

    They've been in a giant anti-Monero tizzy since Tone Vays pronounced Dash's instamine to be fraudulent, not "accidental."

    Please keep dumping guys.  I need XMR under 0.001 to buy MOAR without raising my avg cost.   Grin

    guys guys... you were venting anger on Dash as your coin is losing value... hummm how come it losing value anyway..

    1. no GUI.... means less ppl willing to try it because its too difficult to them

    2. infinite max coin with perpetual emission forever

    3. moar and moar clone coin with with same dev, further diluting your coin value... i mean, if i can buy aeon for cheaper why i buy monero Huh

    tell me why Huh  same dev, same feature ?

    does any of those 3 should be blamed on Dash ?

    How is this in any way related to DASH? As in venting anger on DASH?

    [1] I agree on that point. A GUI is somewhat necessary to increase adoption, at least within the online cryptocurrency atmosphere.

    [2] Keep on FUDding, that has been known since the start:

    Quote from: smooth on April 15, 2016, 09:02:50 AM
    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 07:55:57 AM
    yet they didnt announce in their monero ann about the eternal infinite coin supply

    Incorrect.

    Quote from: https://web.archive.org/web/20140520215957/https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/583449.0
    A minimum subsidy may be implemented in the future with <1% inflation to preserve mining incentives.

    Quaint to see the [MRO] symbol from back then.

    It was there from the original post before any edits (perhaps forum admin could verify) but that is the first capture in archive.org, May 20, 2014.

    Whatever your criticisms of Monero, please do not make things up.

    Furthermore, a tail emission is necessary to keep incentives for miners. Fees alone won't bring sufficient incentives and rewards for miners. Readers might find this excellent post from ArticMine regarding this subject interesting:

    https://bt.irlbtc.com/view/753252.msg13591241#msg13591241

    [3] Why should I buy Bitcoin if I can buy Litecoin cheaper? Or Dogecoin? Or DASH?
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    April 15, 2016, 06:09:48 PM
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    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:55:48 PM
    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
    Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 15, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
    Quote from: dEBRUYNE on April 15, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
    Another 20k taken out to short and subsequently dumped on the market:

    http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

    I wouldn't be suprised if the number of open shorts totals a 6 figure amount in XMR terms.

    Doesn't seem rational to short a coin that's already down ~30% for the week.  Why not wait until it's up?

    Perhaps this is irrational rage-shorting by some angry Dash FailWhales.

    They've been in a giant anti-Monero tizzy since Tone Vays pronounced Dash's instamine to be fraudulent, not "accidental."

    Please keep dumping guys.  I need XMR under 0.001 to buy MOAR without raising my avg cost.   Grin

    guys guys... you were venting anger on Dash as your coin is losing value... hummm how come it losing value anyway..

    1. no GUI.... means less ppl willing to try it because its too difficult to them

    2. infinite max coin with perpetual emission forever

    3. moar and moar clone coin with with same dev, further diluting your coin value... i mean, if i can buy aeon for cheaper why i buy monero Huh

    tell me why Huh  same dev, same feature ?

    does any of those 3 should be blamed on Dash ?

    How is this in any way related to DASH? As in venting anger on DASH?


    Huh? They were obviously replying to Mr. Hashfast blaming the downward trend of XMR on DASH users.

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    April 15, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
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    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
    2. i bet alot of ppl dont even realize that Monero has infinite max coin. nevertheless im sure the whale who shorting your coin know.

    The tail emission rate of monero is lower than inflation.  Its under 1% a year.  Just 432 monero per day.
    Its actually a superior feature to bitcoin's continued halvings and eventual reliance on fees alone.

    Its also critical to the protocol, so that there are always new inputs to use in ring signatures.

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    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

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    April 15, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
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    @noobtrader & @spatula: I genuinely somehow missed iCEBREAKER's post, so my apologies for that. Edited my earlier comment.

    @noobtrader: Any rational "investor" would at least read the OP/ANN of the coin he is investing in. Thus, taking that into account, almost everyone knows about it. It's also included in the description of Monero on wikipedia.

    EDIT: I also forgot to include in my previous post that AEON is mainly used as a testbed for experimental features that could benefit Monero in the future too. An example would be pruning, which AEON is currently experimenting with.
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    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    If BTC rally all alts will lose value compared to BTC. After few weeks when new people come in crypto most alts will start getting value back or even improve it.

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    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    Depends on how "fast" this rally is. I've noticed that when BTC goes up slowly it doesn't really influence alts. However, if it really breaks out and surges fast, alts will likely lose some BTC value.

    EDIT: It will most likely also depend a bit on how ETH reacts.
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    April 15, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
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    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    Generally during any sharp bitocin rally, alts are begged to fiat not btc. 

    However, after a bitcoin rally settles down, alts tend to rise.

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    April 15, 2016, 07:45:09 PM
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    http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/15/senate-to-americans-your-security-is-not-our-problem/

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    April 15, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
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    Quote from: Monerobuyer0 on April 15, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
    Quote from: noobtrader on April 15, 2016, 06:06:49 PM
    2. i bet alot of ppl dont even realize that Monero has infinite max coin. nevertheless im sure the whale who shorting your coin know.

    The tail emission rate of monero is lower than inflation.  Its under 1% a year.  Just 432 monero per day.
    Its actually a superior feature to bitcoin's continued halvings and eventual reliance on fees alone.

    Its also critical to the protocol, so that there are always new inputs to use in ring signatures.



    This is very confusing to simple minds.

    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    The more people that learn about BTC the more that find XMR. Smiley

    Take the Long View.

    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:45:09 PM
    http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/15/senate-to-americans-your-security-is-not-our-problem/

    Time to start a veto petition.

    Also if this passes then USA will no longer host companies that protect privacy and will therefore lose another industry.
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    April 15, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
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    Quote from: Febo on April 15, 2016, 07:16:41 PM
    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    If BTC rally all alts will lose value compared to BTC. After few weeks when new people come in crypto most alts will start getting value back or even improve it.

    Pretty much agree. Also I really find almost impossible the halving pump to happen. When everyone expects something it doesn´t happen.

    Edit: It seems we all agree on that topic... maybe we are groupthinking too much??

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    April 15, 2016, 10:56:11 PM
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    Quote from: rdnkjdi on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
    Any opinions on if there is a bitcoin pump around the halving if Monero will be pegged to bitcoin or fiat?

    I think we'll we'll stay pegged to fiat.

    XMR under a dollar?  Too good to be true.

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    April 15, 2016, 11:02:23 PM
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    When xmr hit dollar parity, it stuck there and has moved only pennies up and down.
    Vat iss the meanink of diss!?
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