That's yet to even be established. It's simply all speculation and nothing of it even exists yet (lol).
People at GAW be like "I invested $10,000. I'm going to buy a house on the beach, get a bikini model girlfriend and drink margaritas all day when I'm not driving my Ferrari."
People in real life be like "I invested $10,000 in a mutual fund. I hope I can get 5% this year ($500)."

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pull the wool over somebody's eyes
to deceive someone in order to prevent them from knowing what you are really doing

Most of them are too greedy to see whats going on, some of them maybe never got beat or scammed (hard) before and the others are, FEEDERS, HYPERS etc. With him giving them 6mo instead of 3mo it made it seem like he did them a favor, even though they should of got the 6mo from the start.
I would bet some had inside info and knew exactly when the transfer was going to take place or they transferred before it went public.
This is a nice 4 part documentary on Madoff, same shit different smell here. I would suggest those sheeple at HT watch this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M3sHrVOddw



And Mr. Unacceptable, congratz on the 18+ years   We helped a friend when he was down (took him years to clean up)  and he became a spokesman for AA, nationwide.

Almost went broke helping poor and elderly (me), it was worth seeing them happy. Hope we can talk more about this one day in the future somewhere else, respect m8!

Alright. Today’s (yesterday’s) summary of developments.

1. I called and had a nice chat with a US Patent and Trademark Office agent¹ who was very open about the status of Mr. Garza’s claimed PayCoin and the following was disclosed:
    A. Mr. Garza nor any of his business entities have been issued a trademark (tm) for the “PayCoin” name, term, likeness, and/or its commercial use protection.
    B. The application to trademark the word was received last month by a third-party web service (like legal-zoom) who mills out these type of applications every day and was likely hired by GAW to submit the initial application.
    C. The “serial number” associated with the listing (86444905) is simply an application submission reference number and nothing more.
    D. The application has not yet even been assigned to an internal USPTO agent/attorney to vet the paperwork and determine if the PayCoin word is available to be tm’d. This process typically takes 3-4 months at a minimum and as long as 12-18 months.
    E. It was determined GAW and/or this service they hired falsified the application where the applicant had to certify the date of the word’s and/or term’s first use within the public domain.² (a note regarding this observation was added by the agent to the application file)
    F. At this time, 12/12/2014, PayCoin is still within the open public domain with the first right of refusal going to its original (PYC) developers and/or the community who financially staked it.
    G. GAW/Zen have no exclusive right or protection to restrict the use of PayCoin or to control others who wish to use it. In fact, any relevant parties can issue a legal C&D communication to GAW and demand they stop harming/interfering with the activity of the existing owners.
    H. It is likely a letter of suspension stating the application is denied or “miss-assigned” will be forwarded to GAW once the USPTO agent/attorney investigates the circumstances of the misinformation submitted on the application along with the marketing activities taking place as I write this.

 2. A little research in to the corporate formation/structure of GAW Miners, L.L.C. in Delaware³ shows:
    A. All the other DBA’s used by Mr. Garza and his businesses are likely not registered – at least in all the states the principles reside in.
    B. GAW Miners, L.L.C. was also registered online using a third party incorporation mill. No attorneys were involved.
    C. There was only 1 page filed in the initial Members list and no financial or shares data was given.
    D. Like many other states that allow the formation of a single member L.L.C., the correct terms to who is running the organization must be stipulated, which was/is not done in this case.

Many people do not realize an L.L.C. is a limited liability partnership comprised of members – or managing members; not a traditional corporate hierarchy like that of an INC. What does this mean?
Mr. Garza is not and cannot be a “CEO”.
Mr. Garza is not and cannot be a “President”.
There is not and cannot be any ITO’s. CFO’s, COO’s. O-O-O’s or Cheerios…

Therefore, if anyone attempts to contact you using any of these ill-gotten titles while trying to protect you from yourself, tell them to pi$$ off and stop playing a game they know nothing about. PERIOD™.

Scott-

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¹ USPTO (1-800-786-9199) call reference file number: 1-317124225
  
² http://gawgate.com/pdf/PAYCOIN%20trademark%20owned%20by%20Geniuses%20at%20Work%20Corporation%20-%20Serial%20No.86444905.pdf

³ http://gawgate.com/pdf/Division%20of%20Corporations%20-%20Online%20Services.pdf

Congrats on being sober for so long!
I find being sober is a better 'buzz' than drinking =)

Great info, If you don't mind.. I'm going to forward this info directly to the SEC manager I was previously dealing with.
Just let me know if I can just copy/paste it into an email to him.

Thanks

Fuck him.....Oi 10btcaday keep broadcasting paycoin(s)... you can't lawsuit and c&d something not trademarked.

Duh..

Gawminers has been full of lies from the start... what a sham!

Insult is the last refuge of the ignorant