is there any hacker(s) involved? or is it just fiction made by the bitcoin consultancy?

i really having a hard time, finding out what the hell is happening, but it seems like an inside job.

baseball bats are much more effective, and at a lower cost.
/caveman

 a big fkin scam..

The actual hackers.....you say that like those hackers are "some mysterious people we don't even know" - riiiiiiiight.

You know the proper way to avoid violence for theft?

Don't commit thefts.

When you steal from people, you take the risk that you fuck with someone dangerous. I'm not dangerous myself, but I'm sure there's more than one bitcoiner who is VERY dangerous, especially to those people who would steal his money.

We expect the government to protect us from thieves like this, but when they will not, justice still must be served. You simply cannot allow the same person or persons to repeatedly steal from you.

In many places, allowing someone to steal the money (actively, or passively through negligence) that is in your care is punished just as if you'd stolen it yourself (because in so many cases you have)

Punish the real hackers: The owners and operators of bitcoinica. Hopefully the lawyers will work well enough before the bat owners come out.

Stop putting words in my mouth, I never said ANYTHING of the sort.
And furthermore, I'm fairly sure this could happen to any exchange, it just so happened that Bitcoinica/Intersango was targeted. If the hacker ever decided to shift targets, some really ugly shit could start happening.

If you stopped making inane threats, Mr. "Not Dangerous Myself", you might be able to buckle down and find out exactly who is behind it, assuming you can do some basic entry-level internet sleuthing. The sticking point right now is whether the evidence is enough to convict the asshole that did it, not who it is, or where he is, or any other BS like that.

Genjix and phantomcircuit are not scammers.  If this was an inside job, these two people were not in on it.

+1 more than likely the new and former ownership decided to collaborate   

+1

Well, I don't care to listen to their stories anymore to be honest. I have lost quite a bit of money and two months of my time reading up on this shittrack of excuses, agitations, and bitcoinica team members threatening its customers.  The community deserves to be warned of incompetent security experts like Patrick who wouldn't pass internet security 101. Hasn't he jumped ship now? There have to be consequences now before they fuck up their Intersango customers, too. If a scammer tag and a sticky post are all this forum has to offer it should be used, or some new tag needs to be created.

I didn't put workls in your mouth - I said you said something "like" something. But then, I see you don't read very well either.

Also, I expressed shock that no one had carried out a threat. I didn't make a threat, nor would I - I don't make threats that I wouldn't carry out, and I'm certainly not going to england to go collect a few hundred bucks from these asshats.

But, true to your normal fashion, it's troll first, read later. You should definitely enroll in a program to improve your reading comprehension.

The sticking point is to FIND the asshole who did it. I'm quite sure that asshole is right under our noses, but the shit smell around here is so prevalent no one will notice the difference. Everything about this case is seriously fishy, and screams of insider involvement.

Scammers or not, someone involved in bitcoinica is a fucking moron and shouldn't be trusted with a single dime, satoshi, eurocent or any other valuable. But, then, we all like to protect our friends, don't we, even if they're somewhere between criminally stupid and negligent, or just criminal 

Yeah - people should be warned before they put their money in a service run by ANY of the people involved in bitcoinica. Incompetent, criminal, or just negligent, they simply are not qualified to care for other people's money.