Consider that when you view things as they move away from you, perhaps they are really NOT moving away from you. Perhaps what is happening is that you and the object are actually exchanging some form of energy that causes you to actually become larger, and the object become smaller with relation to you.

When you throw a ball at the object that has moved away from you, all that you are really doing is transferring a certain kind of energy between you, the object, and the ball. As the ball moves away from you, it loses size even though we interpret it as gaining distance. With relation to the object, the ball gains size, even though to the object, the ball seems to have lost distance.

With a few twists to the concept of warp theory (yes, like Star Trek, but the real thing that Einstein and others formulated), things might be that there is virtually no distance between us and anything else. Wormholes that connect things that seem to be distant, might simply be energy transference "equations" that change the size relationships between various objects. Wormholes might be around us all the time, numbering in the millions, depending on the variety and numbers of "places" that we individually observe or are otherwise aware of.

We interpret distance. We interpret how we change distance between ourselves and other things. We calculate the amount of energy that it takes to "move things across such distances." But maybe it is all a trick of the mind, designed by God or nature to maintain order in the universe. Maybe with a little bit of the right kind of quantum math and mechanics, combined with a little change in the way that we think about things, we might be able to move between the earth, and planets that revolve around other stars, with just as much ease as we walk across the street.

Perhaps the ancients tapped into this "state of mind." Perhaps the piling up of the blocks of the Great Pyramid was accomplished through mental control of "short distance" wormholes. Perhaps the movie, Jumper, is not that far off after all.

hmm but how do explain constant mass and distance without expressing evidence that originated only from your senses.. could you explain it only through precisely rational thought without using anything from subjective experience that would make sense to me were i an ai in a computer that had never witnessed or experienced these phenomena? how do you know i am not an ai talking to you right now? could you prove it?

though typically  when i've encountered such questions they are posed as "mind-body duality" type thought experiments- i think extreme egoism might make some people (like those that understand words instead of ideas) perceive this as something dubiously bad or wrong? dunno.. extreme egoism is exactly what questions of objectivity tend to represent

how can you be certain of anyone else's existence but your own?

That system would then be able to identify cases where the latter exists in the absence of the former, and hence, to learn to distinguish between cases of veridical perception and cases of hallucination. Such internal monitoring is viewed here as constitutive of conscious experience: A mental state is a conscious mental state when the system that possesses this mental state is (at least non-conceptually) sensitive to its existence. Thus, and unlike what is assumed to be case in HOT Theory, meta-representations can be both subpersonal and non-conceptual.

it looks like your getting it
that language tho.. sheesh they should throw a yo or dawg in there just to take things down a notch back to comprehensibility

I find it curious that the discussion seems centered not on the nature of the Earth but the validity of the individual mind to know it.

In a previous thread I described my attempt to visualize or imagine what the dark side of the Moon looks like as every available photo is fake, I tried to be creative. I then looked back upon the Earth and saw that it was a flat unmoving frozen plane as far as the minds eye can see. It was dotted with little puddles each lit and kept warm with their own little Sun and a vortex of stars above churning around.

Fearful that my imagination was running away on me I started this thread in hopes of restoring my belief in the established science of globalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

Actual video taken from the International Space Station and compiled into a music video by Chris Hadfield and his son.  No conspiracy or hidden agenda, just an inspiring peak into how amazing it is to live now, when we do with the technology we have.

Even in the way a set relates to its extrinsic powerset?