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    January 15, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 11:45:29 PM

    BitNow, how do you respond?

    Respond to what?

    I and user BADecker are on the same side: side of Faith (the law of God).

    I repeat my question:
    Quote from: BitNow on January 13, 2016, 09:34:19 PM

    Faith: does it exist without God?

    As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?


    Thank You.


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    January 15, 2016, 09:23:55 AM
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    January 15, 2016, 09:25:24 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 11:45:29 PM

    BitNow, how do you respond?

    Respond to what?

    The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




    Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 11:45:29 PM
    BitNow, you say:

    Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
    Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

    Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

    However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.


    Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 10:18:54 AM

    <snip>
    In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
    Quote
    idol
    [ahyd-l]

    noun
    1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2. Bible.
        an image of a deity other than God.
        the deity itself.
    3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
    Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
    4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
    5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
    6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

    (my bold, for emphasis)

    BitNow, how do you respond?


    So, BitNow, how do you respond?
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    January 15, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:25:24 AM

    The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




    Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 11:45:29 PM
    BitNow, you say:

    Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
    Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

    Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

    However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.


    Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 10:18:54 AM

    <snip>
    In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
    Quote
    idol
    [ahyd-l]

    noun
    1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2. Bible.
        an image of a deity other than God.
       the deity itself.
    3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
    Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
    4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
    5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
    6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

    (my bold, for emphasis)

    BitNow, how do you respond?


    So, BitNow, how do you respond?

    Responding to a response?

    That is not semantically correct.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

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    January 15, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
     #3765
    Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?

    Because they don't understand proper English.

    What is Faith to you?


    Best regards.

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    January 15, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
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    Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.
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    January 15, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
    Responding to a response?

    That is not semantically correct.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

    Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you:

    1. You, BitNow, think that

    Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
    Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

    2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

    Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 10:18:54 AM
    1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2. Bible.
        an image of a deity other than God.
       the deity itself.

    You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?
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    January 15, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
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    Quote from: strayanbit on January 15, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
    Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

    You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
    "Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
    and humility comes before honor.    "
    - Pro 15:33

    Wisdom leads to science.

    Do you hate Science?


    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
    Responding to a response?

    That is not semantically correct.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

    Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

    1. You, BitNow, think that

    Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
    Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

    2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

    Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 10:18:54 AM
    1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2. Bible.
        an image of a deity other than God.
       the deity itself.

    You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


    There is no difference in there, neither a question.


    Best regards.

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    January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
    Responding to a response?

    That is not semantically correct.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

    Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

    1. You, BitNow, think that

    Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
    Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

    2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

    Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 10:18:54 AM
    1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2. Bible.
        an image of a deity other than God.
       the deity itself.

    You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


    There is no difference in there, neither a question.


    There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

    BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
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    January 15, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM

    There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

    BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

    You should believe God not men.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

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    January 15, 2016, 09:55:10 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM

    There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

    BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

    You should believe God not men.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

    So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:55:10 AM

    So, you don't or cant answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

    I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

    Believe God's words not mens.


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    January 15, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
    Quote from: strayanbit on January 15, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
    Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

    You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
    "Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
    and humility comes before honor.    "
    - Pro 15:33

    Wisdom leads to science.

    Do you hate Science?


    Of course I dont hate science, Zeus used science to create the big bang 6 billion years ago, and he continues to use it daily for all manner of events.
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    January 15, 2016, 10:01:03 AM
     #3774
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:55:10 AM
    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM

    There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

    BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

    You should believe God not men.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

    So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?


    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 09:56:09 AM
    I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

    Best regards.

    I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?
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    January 15, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
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    I thought religions were a way for trolls to get together and put normal people in baskets, tape them up and send them to Moldova?  Am I wrong?
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    January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:01:03 AM

    I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


    So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

    Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
    For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

    We disagree on the application of this law:
    For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

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    January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
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    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:01:03 AM

    I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


    So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

    So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
    Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
    For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

    We disagree on the application of this law:
    For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    Thank You.


    Best regards.


    I'm not even talking about atheism.

    My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?
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    January 15, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM

    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
    Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
    For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

    We disagree on the application of this law:
    For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    Thank You.


    Best regards.


    I'm not even talking about atheism.

    You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
    My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


    Believe regarding to what?

    I'm an engineer not a priest.

    Thank You.


    Best regards.

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    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:01:03 AM

    I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?



    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
    So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
    So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
    Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
    For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

    We disagree on the application of this law:
    For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
    For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

    Thank You.


    Best regards.


    I'm not even talking about atheism.

    You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

    Idolatry of course. You were the one who brought it up. If you have already forgotten, just look a few pages back.

    Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
    Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
    My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


    Believe regarding to what?

    I'm an engineer not a priest.


    In regard to this: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't, and why do you think you are correct and not BADecker?
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    Its not that i hate religion but some religious actions does not jive to what they suppose to be. Although there are really good people.

    Sometimes i dont want to be with my religious friends because there are many restrictions to what i do what i say and others.

    That's my experience.
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