Your original question had to do with an eternal universe. The answer was "entropy."

We have no evidence of machines that simply pop into being. Yet, the universe is a complex machine full of countless machines.

All our evidence says that machines are built by someone. All our evidence says that the less intelligent the machine maker, the less complex the machine. We haven't even identified all the complex machines of the universe, to say nothing about duplicating them. So, the Maker of these universe machines is like God to us.

In you have never thought that the very God is not a man, but the very energy that created the world and the whole universe in general. Just in e perceive things literally and it's not right.

no seriously, I don't believe any gods exist, or ever existed

If a god exists, it is an utter failure

God cannot even get people to believe he/she exists... that's a failure

If any god played an active role in manipulating events on earth it would be obvious to everyone, and we would all believe in that god

What god creates Hitler, mosquitoes, malaria, aids, and child cancer? (to name a few)

There is no reason to believe any god exists, and many reasons to believe no gods exist

I can not understand atheists why they are so anti-God and against people who believe in him. After all, they do not interfere with this and do not harm anything. And why this confrontation I can not understand.

Some people hate Islam because, because most terrorist was muslim member. Then, regarding about the atheist why they hate religion, it is because felt to themselves that they are the highest level of people which thinking they are the most intelligent one in the world were they know everything. But thing is not, and most of them don't believed in God.

Atheist has faith that there is no God --------------- A gambler
Relegionist  has faith there is one or more God ---- A gambler   and I coined the word relegionist
Agnostic is honest and simply admits I don't know for sure what the truth is.


Any hatred of the three types of people above against each other is due to the fact that humans make tribes or groups that fight each other.

ie human nature  is to be fearful of  a stranger or different groups of strangers.

Moloch's starting point is to say that he DOESN'T believe that gods exist. His first words, above, are, "no seriously, I don't believe any gods exist, or ever existed." He knows he is lying when he says this, because he knows for a fact that he hasn't checked out every spot on earth and in the universe to see if God exists there or not. Because of this, he knows that God might exist somewhere he hasn't checked.

Since this is what his whole post is based on, and since he is entirely aware that he doesn't know if God exists or not, his whole post is a lie. There isn't much of a way to respond to lies without accepting them as though they were truth in the mind of the speaker of those lies. In this case, Moloch (and all so-called atheists) absolutely know that God might exist. Atheism is a total lie for them, and they know it.

Once Moloch wants to start getting truthful and ask his questions, or make his points, from the standpoint that God might exist, then maybe we can start talking to what he says.

I feel like I gave several strong reasons to doubt the existence of any god, and they were completely ignored

1) God cannot even get people to believe he/she exists... that's a failure
2) If any god played an active role in manipulating events on earth it would be obvious to everyone
3) What god creates Hitler, mosquitoes, malaria, aids, and child cancer? (to name a few)

This is not specific to any religion, like:

4) It is a contradiction for an omnibenevolent god to murder innocent children and animals (10th plague of Egypt)
5) It is a contradiction for an omnibenevolent god to create a place like hell and send 90% of souls there

Don't reply to my post just to trash talk me with personal attacks and ignore the points I make... BADlogic

Stop acting like a petulant child and have an actual debate... or just fuck off and die (please do the latter)

We didn't exist before our brain existed, therefore there is no justifiable reason to believe we exist after our brain ceases functioning.

If you want to suggest otherwise then it is your responsibility to present sufficient evidence to support your claim.