Foundation and Big deal is going exactly as we said it would, but unlike the cryptorealm where people can hype random ideas, in the *real world* you need to go through all the appropriate procedures. As mentioned previously we will not disclose: "This is one of the 'Big Deal' buyers", due in large part to the inexperienced and immature response from several community members which we had to shuffle through in that process, which turned a lot of these people off a portion of this community (the same portion that I have lambasted daily for incompetence and pure greed the past 12 months).

We - the IOTA project - have already made you a tremendous profit, so far I have not seen you deliver anything, all you've done so far as far as I can tell is make money from our work. 'If its some bullshit thing', you were just added to the list of people who will be excluded from the next public opportunity tied to this project.

All of the Iota I have sold has gone to furthering Iota adoption, if you had any idea who I've sold to, but of course you just assume that everyone is a troll and you don't owe anyone anything. You said we would have more info on the Big Deal, you pressed the community with urgency and FOMO, and then we hear nothing. You need to communicate more effectively. I know your not about hype, you're worse, you're all about doom. "If we don't reach Big Deal goals, this project is over, it's finished, community has failed" and then when we reach the Foundation goal, or Big Deal goal, we never hear "Great work community, here is what we are doing" We just hear nothing.

i can confirm!!

Sure, do you want me to post their names and contact info here? Why don't you post the Big Deal details here? Oh yeah, no hype. I run a profitable SV tech company with $10mil annual revenue and 20 employees, I built from nothing, not even 1 dime of funding, I know far more than you do about everything tech and business related, even crypto. I remember you fumbling around Nxt as Uniquorn, I've been in BTC since 2010. Do you even have education? Where have you worked prior to Iota? Since you seem to assume a lot about me from my postings I would like to know more about you. You need to keep calm when people ask you tough questions David, people donated equivalent of 650BTC to Big Deal, they deserve answers without insults and bullshit. If you are going to bring Iota into the real world, you'll need to be prepared for much worse. Stop acting like the Iota community is indebted to you, they took a risk and invested in your project, you should be grateful/humble for that.

Prove it. This is the single thing I have requested from guys such as yourself since November of last year, so if you have genuinely done so I will be very happy.


Tough question? You didn't ask a tough question, I responded to the exact question you posed. Stop acting like an idiot. I don't assume, I specifically said: "AS FAR AS I CAN TELL" and then requested more info, can you not even read? I will not engage conversation with an immature person who is only capable of debating strawmen. I am 100% calm, but I will always speak my mind.  Based on the empirical data available I do indeed have more experience with this than you. As for the stupid argument "People donated equivalent of 650 BTC to Big Deal", you got to be joking. Those tokens were only worth that due to the extra work (outside of the code people bought) WE have done. I will not be grateful to people for simply paying for the work being done. No where in the world have I ever seen more delusional greed that in the cryptosphere, you can make people millionaires and they will still assume you should be grateful to them. Haha pathetic.


We are bringing IOTA into the real world right now and have been since last year, but yes I do indeed consider the people we are making rich indebted to the project itself based on the ADDITIONAL work we do. People paid for software, we have delivered software. That is a simple customer purchase, not some big leap of faith, we didn't raise funds from the community because we needed it, we did it because we wanted IOTA to be grassroots. We could've easily just raised millions of dollars in the form of a company instead, so never for one moment think you made something possible by depositing some bitcoins in an account. We are grateful and happy for the ones that have ACTUALLY supported the project.

But yea, until you prove that you are not just another greedy idiot with an entitlement syndrome you are not worthy of my time.

I want to support the point of view of David.

From what I read from NXT forum, they (CfB & David) been in the realm of interest of VC-s from the times of JINN (2014). Thus, they can just sell 20% of equity, take $$$ and make IOTA project without us - community. No one will make any profits.

Yes, David do not disclosure information. But show me the project with such potential as IOTA has. Show me.

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And I want to add that this blockchain hype won't last forever. Corporations will tired of it in 2018. All that NASDAQ, R3 banks - they ALREADY have their own blockchain solutions. And think if SEQ will regulate ICO-s ?

I feel that the window of opportunity will be closed soon.

funny question:

why not earning money on your work?
could swear, you was open and public to all with ur ideas and plans. Even an ICO is finished. So, why blaming him for his big profits? Its not your strategic work, to sort out the right  price for investors. Its a deal between supply and demand.
Its in the end not a problem, if all do their work. You prove us for sure a BIG DEAL, and I know, you are hard working. I respect really your work. Very dilligent.

But even the biggest gambler is a piece of the whole system. If the incoming IOTA ecosystem couldnt be big enough to handle that, so it would be damn hard to survive on the "sharkybay"!

Just my 2 cents. Dont waste the time for finding the right price on markets!

Greetz
Steve

You can delete my posts, they aren't very relevant to Iota tech discussion anyway, just venting frustration.

funny question: the last thing I heard, the community was asket to hype this project... but still, speculators are told to fuck off...

Let's wait for an official annoncment about the date when IOTA will reach exchanges.