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    August 11, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
     #3101
    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 06:54:04 PM
    Quote from: bestie1549 on August 11, 2023, 06:33:06 PM
    Quote from: lordfrs on August 11, 2023, 05:43:42 PM
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    Quote from: frozenen on August 11, 2023, 02:10:07 PM
    zahid888 before you posted that my guess was the same :
    my guess:
           #63       0=27   correct     1=36
           #64       0=34   correct     1=30
           #65       0=36   correct     1=29
           #66       0=34   guess       1=32
           #67       0=40   guess       1=27
           #68       0=33   guess       1=35
           #69       0=32   guess       1=37
           #70       0=36   correct     1=34

    Maybe James should publish the GPU code for the 1s and 0s searching and also make it possible for us to be able to arrange the positioning of the second 1s where we don't need to start all over again when the program stops working due to power loss or something and also make it in such a way that it program can continue from where it stopped so it doesn't have to keep doing the same thing over and over again. the code has so much potentials but we are going to give it a try too

    import math

    n = 66
    k = 32

    combination = math.factorial(n) (math.factorial(k) * math.factorial(n - k))

    print(combination)


    7007092303604022272  combination   2^62.6.....

    7,007,092,303,604,022,272/50,000,000,000,000/86,400=1.62 days with just 50 Trillion keys/s
    We go faster than that on keyhunt BSGS if you have sufficient amount of RAM and a good number of CPU in your machine you can even go as fast as 500 Trillion

    This calculation is incorrect, all possible combinations are larger when the ratio of 1s and 0s is 50%, if 1 or 0 is smaller, the total decreases.

    when will you publish the GPU version of the code for benchmarking and fully operational testing that way we can be sure which one is the time taken to get the key

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    August 11, 2023, 07:46:46 PM
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    Quote from: bestie1549 on August 11, 2023, 06:33:06 PM
    We go faster than that on keyhunt BSGS if you have sufficient amount of RAM and a good number of CPU in your machine you can even go as fast as 500 Trillion


    I am looking for an approach that is similar to the BSGS method, even though.

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    August 11, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
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    I find it really interesting from the point of view of psychology how some people try to create a pattern that is not there. Especially when its existence was explicitly denied from the ground up by the creator. Seems to be a social phenomenon. Would not like to stop you from the project, of course, go ahead, use your calories energetically.
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    August 11, 2023, 08:02:50 PM
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    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
    I find it really interesting from the point of view of psychology how some people try to create a pattern that is not there. Especially when its existence was explicitly denied from the ground up by the creator. Seems to be a social phenomenon. Would not like to stop you from the project, of course, go ahead, use your calories energetically.

    Indeed, the patterns compared between the keys 30-60, 32-64, and so on, might not truly exist. However, the project is not about patterns; it explores the property of randomness. If you generate a random key with 66 bits, how many 1s and 0s will it have? Most of the time, the proportion will align with what has been observed here. As the creator mentioned it was random, we have further evidence that a truly random key will exhibit an acceptable proportion of 1s and 0s. This isn't about patterns; it's about mathematics and probabilities.

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    August 11, 2023, 08:13:59 PM
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    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
    I find it really interesting from the point of view of psychology how some people try to create a pattern that is not there. Especially when its existence was explicitly denied from the ground up by the creator. Seems to be a social phenomenon. Would not like to stop you from the project, of course, go ahead, use your calories energetically.

    Sometimes one can't see what one is not looking at and you can't find what you're not searching for but something you barely imagined can surface in your eyes beyond one's imaginations as to the fact that we didn't imagine what we are actually working with at the moment and a 66 bit key could be reduced to 60 bits if your guesses for the numbers of 1s are right, now imagine scanning randomly and scanning sequentially without missing a single key whereas randomness can almost iterate over the key without actually finding it because it moves randomly. only if there is a pool where your already scanned random key is stored for the scanned key not be scanned again will it be possible for one to actually find the key randomly, except otherwise stated, the search for the 66 bit random key will take 100 times more for the key to be gotten randomly.

    If we have something that has potentials towards the search, it's better to give it a try but if you're hoping on luck or randomness to ascertain the 66 bit key. I have wasted over $23k renting the GPUs looking for the private key in question but all to no avail because I was trying to randomly search for the key in question and unfortunately I wasn't lucky because if I had tried to search sequentially I would barely have successfully search from 20-21 with that amount so I resorted to randomly scanning and nothing came out of the investment until I was down to the last $0. so if we have something with potentials I think its best to give it a try rather than trying to discourage ourselves. because right here, the sky is the limit

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    August 11, 2023, 08:14:57 PM
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    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:02:50 PM
    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 07:52:00 PM
    I find it really interesting from the point of view of psychology how some people try to create a pattern that is not there. Especially when its existence was explicitly denied from the ground up by the creator. Seems to be a social phenomenon. Would not like to stop you from the project, of course, go ahead, use your calories energetically.

    Indeed, the patterns compared between the keys 30-60, 32-64, and so on, might not truly exist. However, the project is not about patterns; it explores the property of randomness. If you generate a random key with 66 bits, how many 1s and 0s will it have? Most of the time, the proportion will align with what has been observed here. As the creator mentioned it was random, we have further evidence that a truly random key will exhibit an acceptable proportion of 1s and 0s. This isn't about patterns; it's about mathematics and probabilities.

    From the moment you compare the puzzles with each other and try to derive and predict future events from existing values, you are talking about a pattern. On the subject of coincidence you can find enough worth reading on the Internet. What bothers you about the fact that Puzzle 66 consists of 44 zeros and 22 ones? Give a good reason why this could not occur.
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    August 11, 2023, 08:20:31 PM
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    Puzzle #66 is not about pattern dudes

    is all about logic and hardware power

    If you have a bunch of 4090's out there and a optimized software to search it so you are in the game, If no you'll realize that is not simple as you think.

    there's no pattern.

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    August 11, 2023, 08:22:02 PM
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    absolutely, exactly my words
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    August 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
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    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 08:14:57 PM
    From the moment you compare the puzzles with each other and try to derive and predict future events from existing values, you are talking about a pattern. On the subject of coincidence you can find enough worth reading on the Internet. What bothers you about the fact that Puzzle 66 consists of 44 zeros and 22 ones? Give a good reason why this could not occur.

    Check for yourself, generate a random key and tell us how many 1s and 0s it has. Do this at least 10 times and let us know.

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    August 11, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
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    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
    Check for yourself, generate a random key and tell us how many 1s and 0s it has. Do this at least 10 times and let us know.
    you have not (yet) understood
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    August 11, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
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    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
    Check for yourself, generate a random key and tell us how many 1s and 0s it has. Do this at least 10 times and let us know.
    you have not (yet) understood
    Please, explain to me.

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    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
    Check for yourself, generate a random key and tell us how many 1s and 0s it has. Do this at least 10 times and let us know.
    you have not (yet) understood
    Please, explain to me.

    Code:
    #!/bin/usr/env python3
    #by citb0in, 2023/Aug/11
    import random

    def count_zeros_ones(binary_str):
        count_zeros = binary_str.count('0')
        count_ones = len(binary_str) - count_zeros
        return count_zeros, count_ones

    def main():
        while True:
            n_input = input("Enter the number of random numbers to generate (or 'inf' for infinite): ")

            if n_input.lower() == 'inf':
                n = None
            else:
                n = int(n_input)

            bit_range = 2**66 - 1

            print(f"Generating {n if n is not None else 'infinite'} random numbers in a 66-bit range:")

            while n is None or n > 0:
                if n is not None:
                    n -= 1

                num = random.randint(0, bit_range)
                binary_str = format(num, '066b')
                count_zeros, count_ones = count_zeros_ones(binary_str)

                print(f"Decimal: {num}")
                print(f"Hex: {hex(num)}")
                print(f"Binary: {binary_str}")
                print(f"Number of Zeros: {count_zeros}")
                print(f"Number of Ones: {count_ones}")
                print(f"Percentage of Zeros: {count_zeros 66 * 100:.2f}%")
                print(f"Percentage of Ones: {count_ones 66 * 100:.2f}%")
                print("=" * 30)

                zero_percentage = count_zeros 66 * 100
                one_percentage = count_ones 66 * 100

                if zero_percentage > 70 or one_percentage > 70:
                    print("Binary percentage condition met. Exiting.")
                    print(f"Found number: {num}")
                    return

    if __name__ == "__main__":
        main()

    in this example I have entered 70% for imbalance of zero's and one's. Run the python program and enter 'inf' at the prompt and after a few seconds you will get a hit.

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    Decimal: 52671848116805094393
    Hex: 0x2daf7fecb797ecbf9
    Binary: 101101101011110111111111101100101101111001011111101100101111111001
    Number of Zeros: 19
    Number of Ones: 47
    Percentage of Zeros: 28.79%
    Percentage of Ones: 71.21%

    EDIT: here's another example using a spread of > 80% imbalance in less than 5 seconds after program start
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    Generating infinite random numbers in a 66-bit range:
    Binary percentage condition met. Exiting.
    Found number: 27742332034348056594
    Hex: 0x18100900004418012
    Binary: 011000000100000000100100000000000000000100010000011000000000010010
    Number of Zeros: 55
    Number of Ones: 11
    Percentage of Zeros: 83.33%
    Percentage of Ones: 16.67%

    and some additional ones even greater than > 85%
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    Decimal: 288239249823367425
    Hex: 0x4000812100c0101
    Binary: 000000010000000000000010000001001000010000000011000000000100000001
    Number of Zeros: 57
    Number of Ones: 9
    Percentage of Zeros: 86.36%
    Percentage of Ones: 13.64%
    ==============================
    Decimal: 54056408995333132
    Hex: 0xc00c048000040c
    Binary: 000000000011000000000011000000010010000000000000000000010000001100
    Number of Zeros: 57
    Number of Ones: 9
    Percentage of Zeros: 86.36%
    Percentage of Ones: 13.64%
    ==============================

    I also suggest to use "secrets" libary instead of "random" to generate true random numbers. The last two shown examples (>85% imbalance) shown here were using python's "secrets" library.
    Is this enough to understand the meaning of randomness ?
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    August 11, 2023, 08:36:34 PM
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    Quote from: rosengold on August 11, 2023, 08:20:31 PM
    Puzzle #66 is not about pattern dudes

    is all about logic and hardware power

    If you have a bunch of 4090's out there and a optimized software to search it so you are in the game, If no you'll realize that is not simple as you think.

    there's no pattern.

    I rented 4090s for 2 months. how do you think I lost the $23k?

    what I need to know is what you meant by "optimized software"

    Because I want to know your definition of searching the range wisely and not considering the speed and time and resources need and amount of investment or capital needed to complete the scan.

    and I need to know your calculation for the keys/s and I know the best speed you can get on the 4090s is 5billion keys/s and if you use the keyhunt cuda you can use all the device in a machine to scan the range.

    Please explain...

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    August 11, 2023, 08:37:27 PM
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    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 08:34:44 PM
    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
    Quote from: citb0in on August 11, 2023, 08:25:02 PM
    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:23:33 PM
    Check for yourself, generate a random key and tell us how many 1s and 0s it has. Do this at least 10 times and let us know.
    you have not (yet) understood
    Please, explain to me.

    Code:
    #!/bin/usr/env python3
    #by citb0in, 2023/Aug/11
    import random

    def count_zeros_ones(binary_str):
        count_zeros = binary_str.count('0')
        count_ones = len(binary_str) - count_zeros
        return count_zeros, count_ones

    def main():
        while True:
            n_input = input("Enter the number of random numbers to generate (or 'inf' for infinite): ")

            if n_input.lower() == 'inf':
                n = None
            else:
                n = int(n_input)

            bit_range = 2**66 - 1

            print(f"Generating {n if n is not None else 'infinite'} random numbers in a 66-bit range:")

            while n is None or n > 0:
                if n is not None:
                    n -= 1

                num = random.randint(0, bit_range)
                binary_str = format(num, '066b')
                count_zeros, count_ones = count_zeros_ones(binary_str)

                print(f"Decimal: {num}")
                print(f"Hex: {hex(num)}")
                print(f"Binary: {binary_str}")
                print(f"Number of Zeros: {count_zeros}")
                print(f"Number of Ones: {count_ones}")
                print(f"Percentage of Zeros: {count_zeros 66 * 100:.2f}%")
                print(f"Percentage of Ones: {count_ones 66 * 100:.2f}%")
                print("=" * 30)

                zero_percentage = count_zeros 66 * 100
                one_percentage = count_ones 66 * 100

                if zero_percentage > 70 or one_percentage > 70:
                    print("Binary percentage condition met. Exiting.")
                    print(f"Found number: {num}")
                    return

    if __name__ == "__main__":
        main()

    in this example I have entered 70% for imbalance of zero's and one's. Run the python program and enter 'inf' at the prompt and after a few seconds you will get a hit.

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    Decimal: 52671848116805094393
    Hex: 0x2daf7fecb797ecbf9
    Binary: 101101101011110111111111101100101101111001011111101100101111111001
    Number of Zeros: 19
    Number of Ones: 47
    Percentage of Zeros: 28.79%
    Percentage of Ones: 71.21%

    Is this enough to understand the meaning of randomness ?

    Generate randomly without defining percentages.

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    August 11, 2023, 08:38:31 PM
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    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 08:37:27 PM
    Generate randomly without defining percentages.
    Did you read the code?

    Code:
    ...
    bit_range = 2**66 - 1
    ...
    num = random.randint(0, bit_range)
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    August 11, 2023, 09:35:05 PM
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    I'm reading the post and feel so funny about it.

    I have no idea what's the point to argue about. One believe in power of random but another is discussing about math probability. You can even get 90% of 0 or 1 sometime but it's rare. James idea is just a type of probability to eliminate the less likely combination and doesn't guarantee it will find the key, as simple as that. Why is that so difficult to understand and try to bash people logical idea when they themselves can't find any. Is that so difficult to open the mind and listen to others?

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    Exactly, it's just a logic to avoid brute force on all combinations. If it doesn't make sense, present your idea.

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    Quote from: zahid888 on August 11, 2023, 09:57:41 AM
    Puzzle: 30       Zeros: 14       Ones: 16        Percent 0: 46.67%       Percent 1: 53.33%       Decimal: 1033162084 | Binary: 111101100101001100110101100100
    Puzzle: 60       Zeros: 28       Ones: 32        Percent 0: 46.67%       Percent 1: 53.33%       Decimal: 1135041350219496382 | Binary: 111111000000011110100001100000100101001101100111101110111110

    Puzzle: 32       Zeros: 17       Ones: 15        Percent 0: 53.12%       Percent 1: 46.88%       Decimal: 3093472814 | Binary: 10111000011000101010011000101110
    Puzzle: 64       Zeros: 34       Ones: 30        Percent 0: 53.12%       Percent 1: 46.88%       Decimal: 17799667357578236628 | Binary: 1111011100000101000111110010011110110000100100010001001011010100

    Puzzle: 33       Zeros: 17       Ones: 16        Percent 0: 51.52%       Percent 1: 48.48%       Decimal: 7137437912 | Binary: 110101001011011001010100011011000
    Puzzle: 66       Zeros: 34       Ones: 32        Percent 0: 51.52%       Percent 1: 48.48%       Decimal: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | Binary: ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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    Do you see any 80% or even 70% here? If he didn't see it, why is he so convince that James idea doesn't work? If you eliminate the less likely 80% above and 20% below, it is still kind of logical idea to eliminate those less likely key. Is that so difficult to understand? Nobody denying the key might be at above 80 or below 20, it's just less likely. That's what we call "Probability" in maths, not cluelessly brute forcing 100% of the range.

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    Quote from: james5000 on August 11, 2023, 09:40:00 PM
    Exactly, it's just a logic to avoid brute force on all combinations. If it doesn't make sense, present your idea.

    In my honest opinion, your idea is definitely have logic. Even if you can't find 66, you still have 67, 68, 69 unless all random hidden at top 70 or below 30.

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    Quote from: bestie1549 on August 11, 2023, 08:36:34 PM
    Quote from: rosengold on August 11, 2023, 08:20:31 PM
    Puzzle #66 is not about pattern dudes

    is all about logic and hardware power

    If you have a bunch of 4090's out there and a optimized software to search it so you are in the game, If no you'll realize that is not simple as you think.

    there's no pattern.

    I rented 4090s for 2 months. how do you think I lost the $23k?

    what I need to know is what you meant by "optimized software"

    Because I want to know your definition of searching the range wisely and not considering the speed and time and resources need and amount of investment or capital needed to complete the scan.

    and I need to know your calculation for the keys/s and I know the best speed you can get on the 4090s is 5billion keys/s and if you use the keyhunt cuda you can use all the device in a machine to scan the range.

    Please explain...

    I am still waiting for an explanation for your defined term "optimized software"

    The fastest I can achieve on a 14 * 4090 is below

    GPU IDS      : 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13
    GPU GRIDSIZE : 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512, 2048x512
    SSE          : YES
    RKEY         : 0 Mkeys
    MAX FOUND    : 65536
    BTC ADDRESS  : 13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so
    OUTPUT FILE  : Found.txt

    Start Time   : Sat Aug 12 03:37:01 2023
    Global start : 2CA60FFFFFFFFFFFF (66 bit)
    Global end   : 40000000000000000 (67 bit)
    Global range : 1359F000000000001 (65 bit)

    GPU          : GPU #6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (128x0 cores) Grid(2048x512)

    GPU          : GPU #2 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (128x0 cores) Grid(2048x512)

    GPU          : GPU #7 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (128x0 cores) Grid(2048x512)

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