It's hard to understand for me that you are trying to discredit reasonable and justified criticism by ridiculing or even insulting it.
You obviously do it out of monetary reasons...but I would never have expected something like that happening to me, because I always try to state things as neutral as possible OR make it clear that something is written from my perspective. I also always give (and gave) the source for every claim I made.

Now the way you are reacting to this insightful and clearly stated criticism is something, those, who are observing this situation should analyze for themselves as it tells a lot about the actors' characters and their willingness to achieve their goals by any means

And I'm repeating myself here again, but I urge everyone to read the dialogue between Eliphaz and tempus during the ICO phase.

The same game that was played with StewieG is now being played on tetra. Member how nobody gave a shit about Stewie? Member Stewie pointing out facts and getting ignored and insulted? Member how they tried smearing him for being paid? Member one guy after another coming at him? Oh I member...   Member everyone laughing at Stewie when price was high and everyone being pissed at Stewie when price was low? I member... Member Stewie caring about the price all the time? Oh wait I don't member...

Who are these devs? i don't see them listed on the site. I never heard of them. Info or I call bullshit. Same as with the mentioned business relations. Reveal or I call bullshit. Same as with the 1000tps you promised but now claim they were promised in a 'private network only'. Wasn't the blockchain 3.0 slogan based on 1000tps in a real decentralized public blockchain? Member? I member, seems like you don't! Member moral values? I member, seems like you don't. Gotten a bit too much money in your hands it seems?

WRONG! This guy is NOT a political idiots although others might be. Member the definition?

"In political jargon, a useful idiot (also useful fool) is a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause the goals of which they are not fully aware of, and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause."

Don't believe for a second they are not fully aware of the goals. The goals are distorting the perception of what has been promised and what has been delivered in order to make max gains possible. They have left every moral value behind in order to reach that goal. Sheeples are too deeply stacked in heat and not effort to lose after the catastrophic FIMK failure. They all know that, the only ones not fully aware of it are new people coming in here. THEY need to be made aware of that.

Svante seems to be getting a bit disturbed in his head. Now he compares us with a freakshow, how nice of him. Again he tries to avoid answering the real questions here. There were a few question, did you see them? How about answering them? This is also not about rich and poor. This is about you not answering questions and thinking you can duck them by distracting us with your nonsensical posts and compare us with a freakshow. You have lied so many times and avoid any responsibility. Enough is enough.

There's absolutely no doubt the reason for the continuous negative posts from "multiple users" is personal gain, as said either through satisfying a sick personality disorder, or gaining financial compensation from unknown party.

This memberberry subpersonality, with 137 posts all directed plainly to hate and negativity towards HEAT. No other posts at all. Interesting eh? A full day or two wasted on pouring crap. Hope it's worth it!

You're giving too much significance to this troll fest forum. There are other channels and constant influx of new users to heatwallet, with some major genesis block participants liquidating sizable stakes at the same time, for a reason or another. Maybe they're fed up waiting in the fast paced crypto, maybe scared by glancing at this forum or whatnot. This has mostly kept the market from rising at the time of few system updates. The weak hands will soon be even weaker and a new upswing is likely to be witnessed following our next set of major core releases.

Well, I can give my opinion here as an independent investor. After reading the whitepaper I decided to invest in HEAT, and it was probably a lot easier for me because I already was familiar with the team as I had followed FIMK. I've never looked at timeframes on projects like these to be the point, nor a thing that should be ignored, but understood the difficulties in the beginning as big birth pains. When forging/mining began I happily left the devs to their work and started to contribute in every way I could, so I would help the community, maybe even the project. I do not mean there shouldn't be critique, that is absolutely the way to go as it is a very important channel to get things improved and of course the critique should also be taken as a tool it is meant to be. I know there have been cases of misuse/misunderstandings/misrepresentations on both sides of the table, and that is a shame because without those exaggerations we could probably be in another point with this project. But the things are what they are.

There have been scam claims and what-not... Well, I think those are just full bull. I've been paid every withdrawal I've made and nothing ever has gone missing. Some of the timelines of tech features have not held fast but life is dynamic and we have to settle accordingly.

So my opinion is that I'm happy what we have even though I know it could have been handled otherwise. A 70/30 thumbs up for this project. Mining is AWESOME.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6vhrkj/why_i_think_heat_is_a_sleeping_volcano/

cheers 

Guys, help! Ansear pls, ICO was in 2016?? Can i buy the tokens now?

And wherer i can see the coins on blockchain 3.0? This is new format of blockchain and it is the future, isn't it?

Thanks.

@tetra
An independent investor yeah right....   This tells you all you need to know. He is a lying piece of shit just like Svante. To call this guy independent is so far from the truth as it can be. He seems to be the owner of this site http://www.cryptocurrencies.fi/ , formerly known as this site http://www.kryptovaluutat.fi/ , which whole purpose seems to be to promote heat and act as an entity that tries to appear to represent a group and an established authority that seems to have blessed heat. A pure marketing joke.
He also owns this site https://twitter.com/TurnTripspoker , a poker site for heat and fimk.
And also this site http://www.heatland.fi/ , an onlinestore for crap payable with heat. I guess this is where his named derived from. Crapstore... Crapsy.
This guy is as independent from heat as the pope is independent from the church. Now that he mentions he is independent tells you all you need to know.
Everybody that knew heat is horseshit already left the building. You are left here with the rest of the rest. Their most loyal cocksuckers that would never leave their majesty Svante and will go down with him. Well actually I believe they are just too deep invested into heat.
" After reading the whitepaper I decided to invest in HEAT, and it was probably a lot easier for me because I already was familiar with the team as I had followed FIMK." , my guess is he is one of the big FIMK bagholders and with the team leaving their failed fimk behind and allowing fimk holders to invest in heat with a great price compared to the btc and eth price you were basically forced to invest into heat with your fimk.
This guy could not be more dependent to rely on heats success so yeah some real independence here...   Don't trust any of these backstabbing liars for one second. They are all in the same boat and they will do whatever it takes to get out of there.