KNCMINER is shaving 1 year warranty off of your 2 years consumer warranty by using the "for business use" line.

That's an exclusion clause staring you right in the face but you can't be bugged to see or admit it and rather spread BS about KS (haha). That's a rather pathetic way of spending your time while you could, in effect, talk to a real lawyer and set things straight, at least for the UK.

You are right about your assumption that businesses have some consumer rights, as in they should get what they pay for and "it" should work satisfactorily. Sadly, you're mostly wrong about the rest but don't know enough to realize it and certainly don't have the experience in court to back up your own (mis)information.

You're a KNCMINER fanboy, good for you, you tell people to double check things, make up their own mind, not overspend, all good. But stop giving legal advice when you don't know the first thing about it.

+1

P.S. KS, if you have any links or info about 2 year consumer rights being trimmed to 1 for businesses, pm me. Thanks

The fans on those heatsinks are modular.  You can replace them with deltas if you want.

1. Says who?
2. You are forgetting - RESALE. People are still eagerly buying 333Mh/s usb miners on ebay today. There will still be a market for a 400GH/s miner in 12 or 15 months, so the warranty should extend that far too.

He doesn't have a scooby, he was the one harping on about business to business negating consumer rights for ages without knowing anything about what he was talking about, purely to troll, and I'm the one that did the legwork and looked it up, to shut him up. What sodding assumptions?! I added the link from the official UK citizen' advice beaureau where I pulled the quote from, direct from the proverbial horses mouth.

I would imagine he means datacenter grade, just take a look at the chassis for an $8K server.  Lets start with the easy stuff.  First they all have internal power supplies and are 19" wide so they will fit in a datacenter rack without the need for shelves. 

Normally CPUs and GPUs are just passive (fanless) heatsinks which use the case air flow to cool them.  The "case" fans provide the forced air across all components using multiple high CFM (noisy) fans.  Nobody uses "gamer brand" gear.* Air flow is an optimal front to back design (cold aisle to hot aisle).  Cooling is forced flow across the entire width of the chassis (multiple fans in a "line") for simplicity and reliability. On higher end servers cooling is redundant, two fans stacked together to prevent overheat in a fan failure.  Redundant power supplies are also common for the same reason.

I understand time is critical but what happens when your fan or PSU dies in the datacenter?  Ask anyone with colocated servers, "remote hands" time is expensive and so is downtime.  There is a reason why $8K servers are built this way and lets face it a $8K mining rig is pretty much an expensive mission critical server.  

Note I am not saying KNC should make "professional grade" rigs at this time, it is more a thought exercise. Come on people you should be enthusiasts.  Don't you ever just brainstorm about how things can be done better?  I mean Satoshi did and that is why we have Bitcoin.  Still it shouldn't be taken as a bash on KNC, it has taken the server industry a couple decades to come up with optimal configurations.  It just is to show what people in the IT hardware world would consider "professional grade" today.  To their credit KNC has already designed a better cooling system them BFL.  The mere fact that their heatsinks and fans all face the same direction is a significant improvement.  Everytime I look at a photo of a BFL minirig I just cringe.  The IT geek in me wants to rip out all those stupid fans and do it right.




This goes beyond KNC but most "consumer" branded cooling gear is just garbage for gamers to waste money on.  The CFM ratings tend to be inflated and they are often more expensive then "professional grade" equipment.  Delta and the like is the real deal.  Boring, black, ugly, and very effective.

Yeah I was assuming you were talking anout them 4k fans.

Still overkill for a machine with a lifetime of about 6 months.

But people keep harping on about datacenter grade parts but don't realise that KNC haven't ever promised anything about "datacenter" grade machine.

People are taking the word "professional" too literately.

P.s a $8k server can't be compared to a $8k knc miner. With the miner, most of the cost goes towards NRE.

Most delta fans (except the highest CFM ones) aren't that expensive they just aren't flashy.  Delta is never going to make colored fans, ones with LEDs on them, or use leet names.  They are boring black fans that spin and have a reputation of high quality.

professional 24/7 machine (and it doesn't matter if it is router, switch, server, tape library or mining rig) = data center grade. (please check, how looks and how is designed professional IT 24/7 equipment, which cost more then 5k dollars)